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2 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

I rather feel they are players used to Pep , Klopp , Arteta , Ancelotti etc and now have Southgate . The team is unbalanced and being asked to play in a manner they do not for their clubs . They are not convinced or committed to the Southgate approach. They are all looking at each other , getting frustrated with each other . 
 

These last 4 games , are probably the worst I have seen England play at a tournament final in my many decades . If you add in who the opposition has been , the level of failure is catastrophic. 
 

The issue will be , there are no stand out successful English managers to replace him with . 

They should have chatted to klopp before this tournament, some passion and fight, who can actually win something. Whether he would take it is another matter!

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3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

We need to stop judging these players as club players and judge them in an England shirt.  If you do, you see they aren’t as good as many think at the top level.  They’re decent but they blend into average in the main, bar a few stars.

Yes but they are up against similar opposition, they should be able to play like any other team in this tournament 

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1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

The classic “you’ve got 5 mins to prove you deserve to be out there”.  That’s bollox, that’s lack of ownership.

They proved themselves in three previous games. That’s the problem. Nothing will happen in next 5 mins that changes what has happened all tournament. As you say, total lack of ownership. And for serious structural problems in the team, too.

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2 minutes ago, MelksRed said:

How is it we have a Turkish ref? His team are still in the competition and on our side....

Having seen us perform then surely he'd want us to go through!

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