Davefevs Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 24 minutes ago, Corsham Alf said: The intention was to announce the signing on Friday. Firstly, I don’t doubt that we will be signing Hirakawa, but whoever you are getting your info from appears to be filling in gaps without really thinking about the practicalities and rules, and then having to come up with a new reason each time! Is it Brian 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Where is Brian??? Where did he go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 11 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Firstly, I don’t doubt that we will be signing Hirakawa, but whoever you are getting your info from appears to be filling in gaps without really thinking about the practicalities and rules, and then having to come up with a new reason each time! Is it Brian You’ve just put that a lot nicer than why I was about to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 9 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Where is Brian??? Where did he go? He’s still sat in departures. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsham Alf Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 7 minutes ago, Glen hump said: You’ve just put that a lot nicer than why I was about to say. We must never forget about rules ! I genuinely couldn’t care less if the formal announcement has now slipped a day from Monday to Tuesday. My main interest is that he’s joining us & that has been confirmed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 As his game was evening time in Japan yesterday then I'd be very surprised if he got a flight yesterday. Much more likely that he boarded a flight on Japan's Sunday morning and arrived in the UK sometime this afternoon. 4 minutes ago, Corsham Alf said: We must never forget about rules ! I genuinely couldn’t care less if the formal announcement has now slipped a day from Monday to Tuesday. My main interest is that he’s joining us & that has been confirmed. Been confirmed without him having a medical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 They could he looking for a leaker I guess, football is quite a leaky industry.. Put out a story but only in part, but to different sources etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: They could he looking for a leaker I guess, football is quite a leaky industry.. Put out a story but only in part, but to different sources etc. I have little doubt he’s signing, but it couldn’t have been properly “done” until he finished last night’s match, when both clubs could’ve input the deal into the FIFA Transfer Matching System. When City decide to announce I’d their prerogative. They can do it before it’s officially done if they like, but opens them up to something going wrong. It just makes sense to do it after things like medical and registration are done. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, cheddarwedlocker said: Its a done deal everyone, chill out Thanks Brian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 32 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: They could he looking for a leaker I guess, football is quite a leaky industry.. Put out a story but only in part, but to different sources etc. 'Ah ha!' said Brian. 'I knew it was me all along!' 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 06/07/2024 at 14:58, alexukhc said: 7 YU, cheapest number set ever, banging R9,CR7 and now 7YU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) This announcement is getting later and later by the day. Got half a mind to think the game away at Hull will be paused on the 25th minute to announce him on the pitch at this rate. Edited July 7 by petehinton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Ian G is whether fans like it or not the one who knows because we all seem to conclude who is likely to be feeding him, he always said the 7 was done and to be announced second week in July so to be honest keep an eye on his Twitter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Glen hump said: He’s still sat in departures. quick update,he got on the wrong connecting flight and is now wandering round north korea 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I have little doubt he’s signing, but it couldn’t have been properly “done” until he finished last night’s match, when both clubs could’ve input the deal into the FIFA Transfer Matching System. When City decide to announce I’d their prerogative. They can do it before it’s officially done if they like, but opens them up to something going wrong. It just makes sense to do it after things like medical and registration are done. Well like you I strongly suspect he will sign but it seems painfully slow compared to some other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Might have to dodge the showers on the roof 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 56 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Ian G is whether fans like it or not the one who knows because we all seem to conclude who is likely to be feeding him, he always said the 7 was done and to be announced second week in July so to be honest keep an eye on his Twitter. Like when he said Conway was signing a new deal, you mean? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 34 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Well like you I strongly suspect he will sign but it seems painfully slow compared to some other clubs. Mate, he was playing in Japan on Saturday. It is then a 14 and a half hour flight to get to the UK. Unless he can time travel I don’t know how it could be made any quicker. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 12 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Mate, he was playing in Japan on Saturday. It is then a 14 and a half hour flight to get to the UK. Unless he can time travel I don’t know how it could be made any quicker. What I want to know is how people know the timelines to other clubs transfers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 13 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Mate, he was playing in Japan on Saturday. It is then a 14 and a half hour flight to get to the UK. Unless he can time travel I don’t know how it could be made any quicker. To add, if Tinnion (and others) didn’t shoot his mouth off, the first we’d be hearing was Saturday morning when Machida announced it. We’d then be talking pretty quick start to finish. So, the issue is spilling the beans early. Most of us know these things take time. 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 14 minutes ago, Davefevs said: To add, if Tinnion (and others) didn’t shoot his mouth off, the first we’d be hearing was Saturday morning when Machida announced it. We’d then be talking pretty quick start to finish. So, the issue is spilling the beans early. Most of us know these things take time. & saying things are ‘done’ but oh actually he’s going to play for his current club a few more times… Its quite literally not legally possible for those two things to be compatible. God forbid Tinns moves house anytime soon. He’ll probably turn up to a second viewing in a removal van. 1 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 3 minutes ago, petehinton said: & saying things are ‘done’ but oh actually he’s going to play for his current club a few more times… Its quite literally not legally possible for those two things to be compatible. God forbid Tinns moves house anytime soon. He’ll probably turn up to a second viewing in a removal van. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: What I want to know is how people know the timelines to other clubs transfers? Perhaps I'm oversimplifying or perhaps the transactions are more straightforward but I see e.g. QPR news of PL coming out and being done pretty swiftly. A starting point could be to check when it came out and when announced. Paul Nardi, Newsnow. Peacock-Farrell to Birmingham seemed to be quite swift. Stoke seemed to be linked with Johansson, swift. Gibson post release in a way. I have little faith in our hierarchy- club and fans have needed a lift for a good couple of years now- we are treading water. Edited July 7 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Perhaps I'm oversimplifying or perhaps the transactions are more straightforward but I see e.g. QPR news of PL coming out and being done pretty swiftly. A starting point could be to check when it came out and when announced. Paul Nardi, Newsnow. Peacock-Farrell to Birmingham seemed to be quite swift. Stoke seemed to be linked with Johansson, swift. Gibson post release in a way. I have little faith in our hierarchy- club and fans have needed a lift for a good couple of years now- we are treading water. I would say that it's not about us dragging things along or taking too long to get deals done, it's that certain people at the club don't know how to be professionals and keep information inside the club. Whether it comes from being desperate to give the fans something in press conferences (which likely comes from a nice place), or leaking things to cover up for your own inability to think critically and professionally and know when to shut up (which is clearly happening if certain 'insiders' are anything to go by), it's pathetic. I would like to know less about the transfer dealings in advance. It's only being done like this because people are too sensitive to public opinion. Leaking sensitive transfer dealings way before they are done because you're a club legend and you want people to like you. Edited July 8 by Tom 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagon Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Bristol Post reporting this is now thought to be permanent signing. Medical will take place before joining up with squad in Portugal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 7 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Perhaps I'm oversimplifying or perhaps the transactions are more straightforward but I see e.g. QPR news of PL coming out and being done pretty swiftly. A starting point could be to check when it came out and when announced. I have little faith in our hierarchy- club and fans have needed a lift for a good couple of years now- we are treading water. It must be my age but these days I don’t get excited about wild speculation and rumour. Over the years I’ve come to appreciate that outgoing and incoming players are the responsibility of the hierarchy at AG and like all clubs and for obvious reasons the negotiations are kept in house. Yep - I know I’m predictable but until any deals are officially announced I take no notice of any conjecture. Mr Pop…..the club are not ‘treading water’. Player contracts inside the football industry can be a complicated business and it takes time to dot all the i’s and cross all the t’s. If City sign the new Japanese guy then that’s good, if not then so what?…….. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 49 minutes ago, Flagon said: Bristol Post reporting this is now thought to be permanent signing. Medical will take place before joining up with squad in Portugal. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 2 hours ago, Flagon said: Bristol Post reporting this is now thought to be permanent signing. Medical will take place before joining up with squad in Portugal. Article: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/exclusive-bristol-city-transfer-target-9394968 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 8 hours ago, Tom said: I would say that it's not about us dragging things along or taking too long to get deals done, it's that certain people at the club don't know how to be professionals and keep information inside the club. Whether it comes from being desperate to give the fans something in press conferences (which likely comes from a nice place), or leaking things to cover up for your own inability to think critically and professionally and know when to shut up (which is clearly happening if certain 'insiders' are anything to go by), it's pathetic. I would like to know less about the transfer dealings in advance. It's only being done like this because people are too sensitive to public opinion. Leaking sensitive transfer dealings way before they are done because you're a club legend and you want people to like you. It would be an interesting comparison to see how long it takes though. Deals can be complex of course and making sure you don't overpay is also important- PL to PL but £40m by West Ham for Max Kilman anyone..but the longer a deal takes the closer to the season etc, less time to gel. Comms are terrible but I just wonder if there is something lacking at our end in addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, Robbored said: It must be my age but these days I don’t get excited about wild speculation and rumour. Over the years I’ve come to appreciate that outgoing and incoming players are the responsibility of the hierarchy at AG and like all clubs and for obvious reasons the negotiations are kept in house. Yep - I know I’m predictable but until any deals are officially announced I take no notice of any conjecture. Mr Pop…..the club are not ‘treading water’. Player contracts inside the football industry can be a complicated business and it takes time to dot all the i’s and cross all the t’s. If City sign the new Japanese guy then that’s good, if not then so what?…….. Speculation is one thing, seeing reports of concrete interest to timing of completion another. Tinnion has made a rod for his own back to a degree. Sorry RR when I say we are treading water I mean our overall position, it feels like it. A combination of money available, target list..slow at best. Edited July 8 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: Yes. Presumably to be officially announced tomorrow then as indicated by @Corsham Alf ? Or maybe sooner - later today/tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 12 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Ian G is whether fans like it or not the one who knows because we all seem to conclude who is likely to be feeding him, he always said the 7 was done and to be announced second week in July so to be honest keep an eye on his Twitter. Impossible to keep an eye on his Twitter when he blocks everyone from viewing it! 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: Yes. Poor lad. All these flights. Why not fly him straight to Portugal for the medical? I’m assuming our medical staff are over there? Seems a waste of everyone’s time and by goodness what would our new green mp think!! 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Horsman Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 4 minutes ago, Harry said: Impossible to keep an eye on his Twitter when he blocks everyone from viewing it! Poor lad. All these flights. Why not fly him straight to Portugal for the medical? I’m assuming our medical staff are over there? Seems a waste of everyone’s time and by goodness what would our new green mp think!! She probably supports Forest Green mate! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 3 minutes ago, Harry said: Impossible to keep an eye on his Twitter when he blocks everyone from viewing it! Poor lad. All these flights. Why not fly him straight to Portugal for the medical? I’m assuming our medical staff are over there? Seems a waste of everyone’s time and by goodness what would our new green mp think!! If all of the medical staff that have the qualifications to do a pre contract medical were all in Portugal then there would pretty much no point in him hanging around AG today! If the kid fails it would be a bit embarrassing for everyone if he is actually at the tour location Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Ian G’s tweets now switched to public from private again. Social media form of attention seeking, a rugby journalist is very similar to him, doesn’t like being fairly questioned, blocks people, goes awol for a bit by going private, then can’t resist coming back. Then again Tinnion just as bad for that, wasn’t it ‘I’ll be back when we are in the Premiership’ or something along those lines 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 22 minutes ago, Harry said: Impossible to keep an eye on his Twitter when he blocks everyone from viewing it! Poor lad. All these flights. Why not fly him straight to Portugal for the medical? I’m assuming our medical staff are over there? Seems a waste of everyone’s time and by goodness what would our new green mp think!! Tokyo to Heathrow, Heathrow to Failand, Failand to Bristol airport, Bristol airport to Portugal (where ever they are). Poor lad gonna be cream cracked, and that’s before trying to understand Scotty & Hoggy when they speak. Can ask her her thoughts on all the lads driving up to the HPC only to be driven by a big old coach to Bristol Airport too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 21 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Speculation is one thing, seeing reports of concrete interest to timing of completion another. Tinnion has made a rod for his own back to a degree. Sorry RR when I say we are treading water I mean our overall position, it feels like it. I agree that BT should know better than to reveal which player is either signing or even hint at one - especially to a well known show off like Ian Gay who can’t seem to keep a confidence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Poor kid must be knackered though, playing saturday morning (our time), then travelling for God knows how long to get to Bristol. Also doing all the photo shoot and interview stuff, then to Portugal tonight/tomorrow, followed by a trip back to France for the Olympics. Busy boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Just now, bcfc01 said: Poor kid must be knackered though, playing saturday morning (our time), then travelling for God knows how long to get to Bristol. Also doing all the photo shoot and interview stuff, then to Portugal tonight/tomorrow, followed by a trip back to France for the Olympics. Busy boy. What’s the time difference also? Is he allowed jet lag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 A big thing here is Yu is basically sacrificing a potential league title in Japan to join us with Machida currently top of the league. Shows how much this career move means to him (at least from a financial point of view) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Robbored said: I agree that BT should know better than to reveal which player is either signing or even hint at one - especially to a well known show off like Ian Gay who can’t seem to keep a confidence. Seems to have taken Preston 2 days, 3 days to win the race for a Danish League midfielder who is out of contract later this year. Another example of swift business if true, few clubs were in for him. Edited July 8 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 10 minutes ago, petehinton said: Tokyo to Heathrow, Heathrow to Failand, Failand to Bristol airport, Bristol airport to Portugal (where ever they are). Poor lad gonna be cream cracked, and that’s before trying to understand Scotty & Hoggy when they speak. Can ask her her thoughts on all the lads driving up to the HPC only to be driven by a big old coach to Bristol Airport too Don't forget the initial trip to Tokyo from his home Base which is hundreds of miles away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 52 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: It would be an interesting comparison to see how long it takes though. Deals can be complex of course and making sure you don't overpay is also important- PL to PL but £40m by West Ham for Max Kilman anyone..but the longer a deal takes the closer to the season etc, less time to gel. Comms are terrible but I just wonder if there is something lacking at our end in addition. For me Mr P it’s quite simple and breaks down into two main areas of focus (simplified): 1. Pre-Signing shenanigans - fees, contracts, etc, etc - how long is a piece of string? 2. Post-Agreement - medical, sign forms, media stuff >>> announce - is pretty quick, nobody wants to delay there. Normally we don’t get to find out about a new signing until close to the end of 1, start of 2, so it feels relatively quick. But now we are being informed by the club much earlier, ie in the shenanigans timeline…and therefore it feels protracted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Davefevs said: For me Mr P it’s quite simple and breaks down into two main areas of focus (simplified): 1. Pre-Signing shenanigans - fees, contracts, etc, etc - how long is a piece of string? 2. Post-Agreement - medical, sign forms, media stuff >>> announce - is pretty quick, nobody wants to delay there. Normally we don’t get to find out about a new signing until close to the end of 1, start of 2, so it feels relatively quick. But now we are being informed by the club much earlier, ie in the shenanigans timeline…and therefore it feels protracted. This does make sense and yeah the releasing or selectively leaking certain bits early doesn't help but I do think we lack a bit of opportunism in the market too. Arguments to take a more deliberate approach too of course but sometimes getting in quickly with an approach..perhaps it was pre-planned but last season Aalborg terminate contract of Andersen 2nd February, QPR sign on a free 5th February. I wonder how that fits with Registration Rules as it goes, can't remember them. If Transfer Deadline Day on 1st February and he was as per a report terminated at Aalborg on 2nd February, should he have even been registered last season?? I still have misgivings about us in the market. Edited July 8 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 16 minutes ago, Crackers Corner said: Don't forget the initial trip to Tokyo from his home Base which is hundreds of miles away This is true - the infrastructure of DIY stores in Japan is horrific. 4 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 50 minutes ago, Andrew Horsman said: She probably supports Forest Green mate! Ha ha. Doubt it. Dale Vince publically backed the Labour candidate who ran against her! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 I can fully understand The shenanigans bit (as Davefevs amusingly puts it) can be very protracted, particularly with an overseas player. While I have no doubt the basis of a football contract is pretty standard across the football world individual requirements can I imagine vary considerably, and particularly so for footballers travelling overseas with their wives/partners and children. As a minimum I would expect them to ask for assistance with language classes for them and their family (you wouldn't want lessons from Joe Williams or Scotty), schools, a list of responsible and reliable tradesmen etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 46 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Seems to have taken Preston 2 days, 3 days to win the race for a Danish League midfielder who is out of contract later this year. Another example of swift business if true, few clubs were in for him. If you really think signings between 2 English clubs or from sides in Western Europe are the same as signing a player from Asia then I think you’re being very naive. I can’t think of any similar transfer this summer to compare with this one & will just point out again that he played a game on Saturday, had a 14 and a half hour flight & is now here. That isn’t “slow” to me.. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 8 minutes ago, GrahamC said: If you really think signings between 2 English clubs or from sides in Western Europe are the same as signing a player from Asia then I think you’re being very naive. I can’t think of any similar transfer this summer to compare with this one & will just point out again that he played a game on Saturday, had a 14 and a half hour flight & is now here. That isn’t “slow” to me.. We will see, how long did Fally take. I am sceptical we will have all our business done in the desired timeframe but maybe the market is slow right now. Maybe this deal isn't the one but I have my concerns. Edited July 8 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Please can we sign Ben Mee as well? 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We will see, how long did Fally take. I am sceptical we will have all our business done in the desired timeframe but maybe the market is slow right now. What you are doing is not appreciating the start points for each, because some of it is out in the open, some of it wasn’t…so you can’t actually compare Yu with Fally. You’re gonna tie yourself in knots with this. Sometimes you just have to accept that stuff goes on we aren’t party to as fans, and therefore we can’t draw conclusions, or compare our own deals, let alone other clubs deals with ours! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Just now, Davefevs said: What you are doing is not appreciating the start points for each, because some of it is out in the open, some of it wasn’t…so you can’t actually compare Yu with Fally. You’re gonna tie yourself in knots with this. Sometimes you just have to accept that stuff goes on we aren’t party to as fans, and therefore we can’t draw conclusions, or compare our own deals, let alone other clubs deals with ours! Perhaps then albeit I lack confidence in them as a whole and as for Andersen, terminated day x, joins day y..I thought it had to be terminated by Deadline Day to be a valid signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: What you are doing is not appreciating the start points for each, because some of it is out in the open, some of it wasn’t…so you can’t actually compare Yu with Fally. You’re gonna tie yourself in knots with this. Sometimes you just have to accept that stuff goes on we aren’t party to as fans, and therefore we can’t draw conclusions, or compare our own deals, let alone other clubs deals with ours! Completely agree. Your bang on with your original point. We've been given a running commentary of our transfer dealings this year from a starting point. Plenty of false dawn's occur when we're provided information at a stage of transfers we normally wouldn't get. Plus Tinnions 'its done' when it's not. To compare this with another clubs transfer dealings without context isn't comparable at all. Edited July 8 by RedRoss 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Perhaps then albeit I lack confidence in them as a whole and as for Andersen, terminated day x, joins day y..I thought it had to be terminated by Deadline Day to be a valid signing. But you’ve no idea when QPR started talking to Andersen, nor officially when his registration was cancelled. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: But you’ve no idea when QPR started talking to Andersen, nor officially when his registration was cancelled. Maybe it was 1st February, reports were unclear for termination. I just have little faith that our progress under this hierarchy is positive and that is perhaps seeping in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrondrew Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 50 minutes ago, Harry said: Ha ha. Doubt it. Dale Vince publically backed the Labour candidate who ran against her! Given that that Labour candidate is a big science advocate and would have been in the cabinet, you can see his argument there Didn't the club announce they were not flying to matches anymore? I suspect this sort of flight shenanigans might have been factored into that decision from a carbon point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 20 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Please can we sign Ben Mee as well? Or that welsh kiddie Euwan Mee ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frenchred Posted July 8 Popular Post Share Posted July 8 (edited) 14 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Well like you I strongly suspect he will sign but it seems painfully slow compared to some other clubs. It's not painfully slow at all The club have not officially said we are signing him, so when you say it's slow you are judging against rumours Tinnion never mentioned a name so again just rumour Am I the only one who finds it quite childish that people beat the club up with no proper reason, it's not the club's fault that fans speculate/guess what's happening but you can't use that against the club And it's only July the bloody 7th for Christs sake! For what it's worth, I think he will sign but won't be with us until after the Olympics anyway so what's the rush to get his picture? Edited July 8 by frenchred 15 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 13 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Or that welsh kiddie Euwan Mee ? It's not me major, its definitely you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, frenchred said: it's not the club's fault that fans speculate/guess what's happening but you can't use that against the club At the risk of rehashing old ground, it absolutely is when 12 days ago the technical director at an official football club event states that two have agreed to sign and they would be finalised that day. We know that Fally wasn’t one of those. I’m quite prepared to believe that Yu wasn’t one of those (for one it couldn’t be finalised if he was still playing for his old club), and I agree that we will sign him. But if you don’t want fans to speculate that a signing is taking longer than it should have, or speculate if one’s fallen through, it’s probably a good idea not to state you’ve got the signings being finalised on Weds 26th June and then them not being in place on the 8th July. Thats all most people are saying and it’s kind of reasonable, isn’t it? 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: At the risk of rehashing old ground, it absolutely is when 12 days ago the technical director at an official football club event states that two have agreed to sign and they would be finalised that day. We know that Fally wasn’t one of those. I’m quite prepared to believe that Yu wasn’t one of those (for one it couldn’t be finalised if he was still playing for his old club), and I agree that we will sign him. But if you don’t want fans to speculate that a signing is taking longer than it should have, or speculate if one’s fallen through, it’s probably a good idea not to state you’ve got the signings being finalised on Weds 26th June and then them not being in place on the 8th July. Thats all most people are saying and it’s kind of reasonable, isn’t it? Very well put. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 10 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: At the risk of rehashing old ground, it absolutely is when 12 days ago the technical director at an official football club event states that two have agreed to sign and they would be finalised that day. We know that Fally wasn’t one of those. I’m quite prepared to believe that Yu wasn’t one of those (for one it couldn’t be finalised if he was still playing for his old club), and I agree that we will sign him. But if you don’t want fans to speculate that a signing is taking longer than it should have, or speculate if one’s fallen through, it’s probably a good idea not to state you’ve got the signings being finalised on Weds 26th June and then them not being in place on the 8th July. Thats all most people are saying and it’s kind of reasonable, isn’t it? thats because we are now run by amateurs. some slack must be given for that 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sandhurst Red Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 6 minutes ago, Unan said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 6 minutes ago, Unan said: Did Tinnion post that from the airport? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Not sure I've been this hyped for us to sign a player for.. maybe ever.. Although I admit to being a bit of a Japanese obsessive and plan to visit next year. But the talent that's come from J-League has been fantastic over the last 5-10 years. And we might be signing the best player in the league!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: トニー・ウィルキンスは完全なバカだ That's easy for you to say. (Google Translate here I come). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Did Tinnion post that from the airport? thats kim jong wrong uns ransome note Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 27 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: At the risk of rehashing old ground, it absolutely is when 12 days ago the technical director at an official football club event states that two have agreed to sign and they would be finalised that day. We know that Fally wasn’t one of those. I’m quite prepared to believe that Yu wasn’t one of those (for one it couldn’t be finalised if he was still playing for his old club), and I agree that we will sign him. But if you don’t want fans to speculate that a signing is taking longer than it should have, or speculate if one’s fallen through, it’s probably a good idea not to state you’ve got the signings being finalised on Weds 26th June and then them not being in place on the 8th July. Thats all most people are saying and it’s kind of reasonable, isn’t it? But again, he didn't tell you it was this guy either! It's just fans speculation and guesswork (probably correct but irrelevant) 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 "I can't remember LJ signing a player this worshipped..." Was it legally possible for us to sign *any* uncapped player from the J League during LJ's reign, with the UK leaving the European Union at the end of his final transfer window? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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