Jerseybean Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 We extend a very warm welcome to Willem II for our final friendly and first at Ashton Gate. There is a longstanding, positive bond between their fans and ours, as referenced in this wiki piece: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_II_(football_club)#:~:text=The fans of Willem II,the other way to Tilburg. The link was apparently started by Elko De Jong who visited Bristol and the late great man Scooter. Some went over there with Elko to watch Willem II some came this way to watch City. In 2008 more came over for a City game and Scooter took 28 over for a trip and it grew from there with Scooter doing more trips which became popular with groups of sometimes 100+. Around 200 of their fans were at Wembley for our JPT final against Walsall. Here’s an old OTIB thread about the link between the two clubs: https://www.otib.co.uk/topic/170619-bristol-city-and-willem-links/ and another: https://www.otib.co.uk/topic/225018-willem-ii-tilburg-link/ Back in 2015 a petition was started to get a friendly between them and us, https://www.change.org/p/bristol-city-fc-willem-ii-fc-fans-of-bristol-city-willem-ii-would-like-the-two-clubs-to-play-each-other-in-a-pre-season-friendly The club was renamed Willem II after Dutch King William II of the Netherlands (1792–1849), who, as Prince of Orange and commander of the Dutch army, had his military headquarters in Tilburg during the Belgian uprising of 1830, spent much time in the city after becoming king, and died there. Tickets: https://tickets.bristol-sport.co.uk/en-GB/events/bristol city v willem ii/2024-8-3_15.00/ashton gate stadium?hallmap In May they secured promotion back to the Eredivisie, https://nltimes.nl/2024/05/03/willem-ii-promoted-eredivisie-draw-fc-dordrecht and https://youtu.be/EWui7uBrdzI Louie Donowa played for them and us. Some of their best known ex-players include Virgil van Dijk, Frenkie de Jong and Hyppia. Let’s hope it’s a match that all fans enjoy. 14 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 It’s on RTV https://robinstv.bcfc.co.uk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sticks 1969 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Scooter would have been in his element tomorrow RIP 8 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Really looking forward to today, should be a cracking day 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Yep should be a good un! Bell and Mehmeti both starting either side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Are there any concerns the EDL Neanderthals will be out in force today? Probably blaming a local mosque for our lack of goals 1 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 I have seen a lot of mention on this thread and others concerning Willem about ‘Scooter’. Apart from being a City supporter, who was he exactly. I’m not being sarcastic or in any way disrespectful, but I am just seriously interested as to why he is so well thought of. Many Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinheadface Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 51 minutes ago, Bobbie said: Are there any concerns the EDL Neanderthals will be out in force today? Probably blaming a local mosque for our lack of goals No such thing as "Edl"anymore so would be difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Fair play to that 520 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 34 minutes ago, skinheadface said: No such thing as "Edl"anymore so would be difficult. Now known as Reform UK. 9 1 1 2 1 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Please don’t ruin this thread with politics, 14 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 am I right the under 21 play derby today. if so is it the HPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, Lew-T said: Yep should be a good un! Bell and Mehmeti both starting either side. Have you seen the team sheet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 29 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Please don’t ruin this thread with politics, Exactly. Today should be a day we don’t have to think about the outside nonsense. Enjoy it! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Well the Lions is getting busy, atmosphere building nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORANGE500 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, !james said: Now known as Reform UK. Oh shut up this a football forum leave your politics out of it! 4 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeRandomBristolian Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Looking forward to watching some live football again at the gate. I know it's only a few months between seasons, but it gives me something to look forward to on a Saturday. Hopefully a good game today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willem ii Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Matchday!!!! Have fun today! 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 3 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I have seen a lot of mention on this thread and others concerning Willem about ‘Scooter’. Apart from being a City supporter, who was he exactly. I’m not being sarcastic or in any way disrespectful, but I am just seriously interested as to why he is so well thought of. Many Thanks in advance. Here you go: https://www.otib.co.uk/topic/212772-scooter/page/2/ https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/bristol-city-paul-scooter-surridge-5585521 https://www.stpetershospice.org/tribute-funds/paul-scooter-surridge/ https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-city-flag-day-tribute-5747486 3 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugarwray Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 46 minutes ago, willem ii said: Matchday!!!! Have fun today! Geniet van de dag allemaal enjoy the day everyone already looking forward to the reverse fixture 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Pretty sure I can hear some singing from my garden in BS3 already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessels Chick Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 6 minutes ago, IAmNick said: Pretty sure I can hear some singing from my garden in BS3 already I can too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 14 minutes ago, IAmNick said: Pretty sure I can hear some singing from my garden in BS3 already Am sat in Ashton park scoffing a clark's pie- thought I was hearing things! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Paid rhe £5 for streaming but nothing else showing up apart from Robins tv showing the match starting at 3.00! Anyone else noticed this? Will the club release the team line up early or will it remain a mystery until kick off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 4 hours ago, skinheadface said: No such thing as "Edl"anymore so would be difficult. There sadly is, though far more fragmented nowadays 2 hours ago, ORANGE500 said: Oh shut up this a football forum leave your politics out of it! Yes it was a political jibe, but the original question was fair to be honest given they're supposedly going to be in Bristol later. Though there's an argument that if they want a bit of football related "bovver" then the Mem may be the better place to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post RedM Posted August 3 Popular Post Share Posted August 3 Great atmosphere. Well done to all involved 20 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 34 minutes ago, IAmNick said: Pretty sure I can hear some singing from my garden in BS3 already Who’s in your garden ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 3 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Have you seen the team sheet ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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One Team Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 9 minutes ago, RedM said: Great atmosphere. Well done to all involved That looks outstanding well done all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 minute ago, Lew-T said: Interesting that Tanner is getting the nod over McCrorie. Otherwise as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortInTheMorning Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Looks strong. Hopefully this means Bell on the left, Mehmeti on the right and Wells just behind Armstrong Edited August 3 by PortInTheMorning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 minutes ago, CiderJar said: Roberts on the bench, good to see. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 minutes ago, One Team said: That looks outstanding well done all! Hopefully the local press will give some space to this positive and how it has been a friendly on and off the pitch. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Atkinson is a worry though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Only 1 missing is Williams wonder if he was fit would he make the bench for it looks strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Probably the line up for Hull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 3 minutes ago, Malago said: Interesting that Tanner is getting the nod over McCrorie. Otherwise as expected. Agreed, I'd expect McCrorie in for Tanner and Sykes in for Bell, but otherwise it's probably our strongest team based on pre season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Just now, wayne allisons tongues said: Only 1 missing is Williams wonder if he was fit would he make the bench for it looks strong Williams, Atkinson, Murphy (and Yu) When you see it down on paper it does again play to the fact that we have a deep squad but bereft of real quality. In most cases you could swap in a bench player for one in the starting eleven without a discernable difference. Its not necessarily a bad thing as it does provide competiton for places, and hopefully that pushes players on, but it looks hugely mid table when you see our “best” eleven on paper. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 No Williams or Atkinson is a concern, hopefully not too bad Will be interesting to see if Bell isn't on the right hand side. As it's Manning I expect he will be to hold the width with Pring on the left and Mehmeti and Wells the 2 10s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 if we get Twine and the defender from Burnley we do look a very good squad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 5 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Atkinson is a worry though. Don't stress too much, a small niggle I think I am allowed to say. 6 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, fly in the air said: if we get Twine and the defender from Burnley we do look a very good squad Twine and mcnally would be 2 top 6 level players, im not sure how many others would be at that level? Hopefully the 3 other new lads are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 16 minutes ago, Malago said: Interesting that Tanner is getting the nod over McCrorie. Otherwise as expected. Nice to see Roberts’ name there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 15 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Roberts on the bench, good to see. Yes that what struck me , excellent news 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderHead92 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Twine and mcnally would be 2 top 6 level players, im not sure how many others would be at that level? Hopefully the 3 other new lads are! Pring? Dickie? Knight? William's? Maybe even Bird? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 minute ago, Simon bristol said: Twine and mcnally would be 2 top 6 level players, im not sure how many others would be at that level? Hopefully the 3 other new lads are! Much as I admire your optimism coming from a top six club that haven’t been playing you does not make you a top six player, in fact it can often mean you’re not! If you look at players of ours that would be wanted by top six clubs then there is the obvious case of Pring. Potentially Vyner, Dickie, Knight, on a limited sample Roberts and even at a push now Max. So our obvious strength is at the back. But attacking wise it’s definitely below that level and Twine doesn’t move the dial. The only other player who is genuinely wanted by a top six club is Tommy Conway. But people don’t want to hear that…. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 3 Admin Share Posted August 3 13 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Williams, Atkinson, Murphy (and Yu) When you see it down on paper it does again play to the fact that we have a deep squad but bereft of real quality. In most cases you could swap in a bench player for one in the starting eleven without a discernable difference. Its not necessarily a bad thing as it does provide competiton for places, and hopefully that pushes players on, but it looks hugely mid table when you see our “best” eleven on paper. I'd argue that pretty much most of our defenders could slot into a top 6 side and not look out of place. Whether collectively they make a top 6 defence is another question but I feel that is definitely our strength. Any success we manage this season is gonna come down to whether it's good enough to make up for a potential scarcity of goals for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Just now, Ian M said: I'd argue that pretty much most of our defenders could slot into a top 6 side and not look out of place. Whether collectively they make a top 6 defence is another question but I feel that is definitely our strength. Any success we manage this season is gonna come down to whether it's good enough to make up for a potential scarcity of goals for. I think I may have just said that as you were posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 25 minutes ago, Malago said: Interesting that Tanner is getting the nod over McCrorie. Otherwise as expected. Not really. He is a better player. Don’t rate McRorie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 12 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Williams, Atkinson, Murphy (and Yu) When you see it down on paper it does again play to the fact that we have a deep squad but bereft of real quality. In most cases you could swap in a bench player for one in the starting eleven without a discernable difference. Its not necessarily a bad thing as it does provide competiton for places, and hopefully that pushes players on, but it looks hugely mid table when you see our “best” eleven on paper. Agreed. The fact we can all argue over exactly which 4 of 8 or so attackers we would want to start is probably a testament to that. Feels like we've added quantity rather than a clear step up in quality, so far. Early days though, perhaps one of Armstrong/Mayulu/Yu will push on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 17 minutes ago, TammyAB said: No Williams or Atkinson is a concern, hopefully not too bad Will be interesting to see if Bell isn't on the right hand side. As it's Manning I expect he will be to hold the width with Pring on the left and Mehmeti and Wells the 2 10s Disappointed to see Bell. Nowhere near good elite for the first 11. Hoping we can get one more right sided attacking player in. This is not an inspiring team I have to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollsRoyce Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 None of the young academy prospects made it to match day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Williams, Atkinson, Murphy (and Yu) When you see it down on paper it does again play to the fact that we have a deep squad but bereft of real quality. In most cases you could swap in a bench player for one in the starting eleven without a discernable difference. Its not necessarily a bad thing as it does provide competiton for places, and hopefully that pushes players on, but it looks hugely mid table when you see our “best” eleven on paper. I think it's better than having greater variation in quality. My theory is that it reduces the chances of peaks and troughs in form, hopefully reduces the impact of injuries, and means we don't rely on any one player. Ideally you become more than the sum of your parts because of this more even spread of talent. Theoretical yes, but I'm happy with a squad of 7/10s (and Mehmeti of course). Edited August 3 by ExiledAjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 3 Admin Share Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I think I may have just said that as you were posting Yeah both our posts appeared at the same time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 3 Admin Share Posted August 3 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I think it's better than having greater variation in quality. My theory is that it reduces the chances of peaks and troughs in form, hopefully reduces the impact of injuries, and means we don't rely on any one player. Ideally you become more than the sum of your parts because of this more even spread of talent. Theoretical yes, but I'm happy with a squad of 7/10 (and Mehmeti of course). I mean I want Mehmeti to have a stellar season because we need a new victim to pick on a la Semenyo/Matt Smith vibes @Silvio Dante 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Not really. He is a better player. Don’t rate McRorie. Depends what each is being asked to do. Tanner is a better defender, McCrorie going forward. In a back four this selection makes sense. Thought Sykes would start in front of either Bell or Mehmeti, no other choice surprises me. Atkinson is less versatile than Naismith if we’re putting one of those two on the bench. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 22 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Don't stress too much, a small niggle I think I am allowed to say. Out for 6 months then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Out for 6 months then. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) Can't find a single live stream for this, literally every other friendly in all 4 divisions and below is being shown, but not ours, bizarrely (Edit: they're FA Cup games, my mistake) Edited August 3 by Porto Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Just now, Porto Red said: Can't find a single live stream for this, literally every other friendly in all 4 divisions and below is being shown, but not ours, bizarrely It's a fiver on Robins TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paignton red Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Porto Red said: Can't find a single live stream for this, literally every other friendly in all 4 divisions and below is being shown, but not ours, bizarrely advertised on here, so hopefully. http://www.fawanews.com/Bristol City vs Willem II.html Edited August 3 by paignton red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 minute ago, TammyAB said: It's a fiver on Robins TV I know but on a Portuguese wage I can't justify it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Looking at this line up we of course add Yu to it but we do need better quality wide right. Sinayoko would be perfect. Add Twine in for Wells and that’s better. Or else it will be more of the same sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, Porto Red said: Can't find a single live stream for this, literally every other friendly in all 4 divisions and below is being shown, but not ours, bizarrely (Edit: they're FA Cup games, my mistake) http://www.fawanews.com/Bristol City vs Willem II.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 minute ago, paignton red said: advertised on here, so hopefully. http://www.fawanews.com/Bristol City vs Willem II.html That's the site I was trying to think of but couldn't, thank you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 No surprise Tanner over McCrorie for me...more so with an away game to start with next week. Expect a good share of minutes between the two of them. Big chances for Bell and Mehmeti, if indeed this is an audition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Okies down the gate Nd loving the great atmosphere. Wtf is Williams Have I.missed and injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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