formerly known as ivan Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Surely he is going to be off before the window closes. Not in the squad Saturday (unless injured and I missed the news) and only on the bench tonight when you’d think a cup game would be a great game for him to play in. Always gave his best, lacked quality more often then not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythikRobins Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Think he had a knock before Saturday so probably didn't wanna rush him back today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 13 Admin Share Posted August 13 I was told that he hurt his back picking up his new born child 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Just now, phantom said: I was told that he hurt his back picking up his new born child Oh good grief! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Suffering back spasms and few days later his wife gave birth so been given time off apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 The epidural mustun of worked for him then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 never worked out for us, get rid if we can I'd say... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 39 minutes ago, phantom said: I was told that he hurt his back picking up his new born child God don’t women do anything nowadays . Joke joke before I get slaughtered 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 He is going to score a hat trick now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 hour ago, phantom said: I was told that he hurt his back picking up his new born child I thought I would let someone else leak that information. I did suggest a Safe Manual Handling course and ask just how heavy the baby was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Added nothing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 35 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said: He is going to score a hat trick now I doubt very much he’ll score 3 goals all season… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Nige did a lot of good things but this was by far his worst piece of business. It’s Steve Jones all over again. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobBobbin Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Just now, Shauntaylor85 said: Nige did a lot of good things but this was by far his worst piece of business. It’s Steve Jones all over again. a £300k replacement for a £10m winger. context is everything 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Nige did a lot of good things but this was by far his worst piece of business. It’s Steve Jones all over again. I genuinely think that window of Cornick and Mehmeti set us back massively 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, BobBobBobbin said: a £300k replacement for a £10m winger. context is everything Exactly. Steve Jones 400K replaced £3.5M Akinbiyi (as Pulis pointed out as a dig at the board) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Just now, Shauntaylor85 said: Exactly. Steve Jones 400K replaced £3.5M Akinbiyi (as Pulis pointed out as a dig at the board) Pulis spent an absolute fortune on shite. Jones at £425k was just the worst of many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brann-red Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 I want to word this carefully but I don’t see what his best position is. Surely it’s not left wing because he’s been used there lots of times and I can’t recall him ever being consistent there .. I’d have brought on Anis instead as he understands that role better . is he surplus to requirements now when everyone fit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Cornick was never an answer to any question. Get rid asap in my opinion 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJim Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 I've tried to be patient with Cornick, but I really hope we can flog him before the end of the month. I just don't see what he adds to the team, he doesn't score, doesn't create, hasn't got any pace... Been a disastrous signing to be blunt. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Was really good when he came on. Had a better game than Sykes that’s for sure. But that won’t fit the narrative! 5 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 minute ago, petehinton said: Was really good when he came on. Had a better game than Sykes that’s for sure. But that won’t fit the narrative! But that is meaningless set against club’s target of top six. Neither cut the custard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhhshauntaylor Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 This won’t be popular…. But Cornick did his best work (and scored/was a main stay @ this level for Luton) when playing alongside a “big man”. Yes- his time here has been poor, no question. But we’re yet to actually play to his strengths. Right wing, left wing etc- that’s not his “game”. I actually thought he was ok tonight (low bar obviously) and I think him alongside a Fally/Sinclair would be where we see something more from him. That being said- LM won’t play 2 up top, so no doubt he will move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 minute ago, Ivorguy said: But that is meaningless set against club’s target of top six. Neither cut the custard Who in our squad does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJim Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 4 minutes ago, petehinton said: Was really good when he came on. Had a better game than Sykes that’s for sure. But that won’t fit the narrative! Cornick? No narrative here... but please tell me what I'm missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Just now, petehinton said: Who in our squad does? A very good point. Interestingly in this context no bids received for any of our squad save Conway, and none for him from a higher league. Also, None for, imo, overhyped Vyner and Pring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksy Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Having watched him tonight I couldn’t care less if he never played for us again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Just now, RedJim said: Cornick? No narrative here... but please tell me what I'm missing? Won every header, few excellent bits of build up play, really good drive centrally to set up Sykes for his one on one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 minute ago, ohhhshauntaylor said: This won’t be popular…. But Cornick did his best work (and scored/was a main stay @ this level for Luton) when playing alongside a “big man”. Yes- his time here has been poor, no question. But we’re yet to actually play to his strengths. Right wing, left wing etc- that’s not his “game”. I actually thought he was ok tonight (low bar obviously) and I think him alongside a Fally/Sinclair would be where we see something more from him. That being said- LM won’t play 2 up top, so no doubt he will move on. Exactly this, typical City, bring a player in but don't actually play them to their strengths. Cornick is not a wide player, he'll have a go, but if you watch him he's always got a tendency to go inside when off the ball or looking for a return pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakeside Red Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Needs to be moved on now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythikRobins Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 I don't even think he was actually that poor today to get his own thread. Where's the Williams, Sykes and TGH thread? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJim Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 minute ago, petehinton said: Won every header, few excellent bits of build up play, really good drive centrally to set up Sykes for his one on one. Fair enough - different points of view, no problem with that. To me he looks laboured and clumsy. I do remember the bit where he set up Sykes, but that's the only positive contribution I could remember of note. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 I like the guy and admire his work rate (also worth noting congratulations for the new born) however technically he’s not at the level to play in this side. Wish him well but I think he needs to move on 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 3 minutes ago, MythikRobins said: I don't even think he was actually that poor today to get his own thread. Where's the Williams, Sykes and TGH thread? 100%. He did okay. At least 6 others worse than him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of his pie crust Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 5 minutes ago, petehinton said: Won every header, few excellent bits of build up play, really good drive centrally to set up Sykes for his one on one. I’d agree, I don’t think we need to keep him but there were numerous players out there tonight who did less in the minutes they had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Thought he was better than Bell tonight, but that does not really say much, strange sub to bring him on and not Anis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 10 minutes ago, petehinton said: Won every header, few excellent bits of build up play, really good drive centrally to set up Sykes for his one on one. He was often winning headers unchallenged, in acres of space, just to flick it on to no one. Not the sense to try and control the ball and lay it off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 49 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: But that is meaningless set against club’s target of top six. Neither cut the custard How do you cut the custard???? Don't you mean cut the mustard? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham76 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 54 minutes ago, petehinton said: Won every header, few excellent bits of build up play, really good drive centrally to set up Sykes for his one on one. What game were you watching? I thought Cornick was clumsy and ran around like a headless chicken. He’s nowhere near good enough at this level. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartleysbeard Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Surely it’s in both the club’s and his best interests to move him on now. With the incoming signings and once all players available and fit, it’s hard to see him making the bench. Odd to see him come on when Mehmeti would have been a better threat down the left. Yes, he worked hard but he looks short on confidence to me and not helped by playing him out of position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Man Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Pulis spent an absolute fortune on shite. Jones at £425k was just the worst of many. Jones did have a world class tan though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 The bloke is absolute dog shit offers up nothing what so ever!! Problem is I can't see anyone wanting to pay his wages so he will probably just run his contract down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prankerd Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 7 hours ago, phantom said: I was told that he hurt his back picking up his new born child Yeh, your hilarious... Our fanbase is embarrassing at times.. Why would any player give a toss about playing for the badge when we have fans taking the piss out of them for having a new born.. Fans may not think hes good enough to play at this level but what about the rest of the players? Why is cornick singled out? Id be gutted if i was him, literally left luton who got promoted to the prem for us, to be treated like a scapegoat, what about the rest of our attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 5 hours ago, MythikRobins said: I don't even think he was actually that poor today to get his own thread. Where's the Williams, Sykes and TGH thread? I started this thread well before kick off making an observation on his lack of involvement during the first couple of games. Nothing to do with how he played once he came on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Cornick was a cheap buy to bulk up the squad and in fairness has served us well when players have been injured, his availability has been good compared to most others, can also offer something different when team has run out of ideas as Nige noted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 25 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: Cornick was a cheap buy to bulk up the squad and in fairness has served us well when better players have been injured, his availability has been good compared to most others, can also offer something different when he has run out of ideas as Nige noted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobBobbin Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 9 hours ago, petehinton said: Won every header, few excellent bits of build up play, really good drive centrally to set up Sykes for his one on one. Agreed, I actually thought he was one of our better players tonight, Linked well, passed well, retained the ball well, pressed well, protected Roberts. Sykes messed the chance up by taking a touch and Cornick was one of only a few to play a pass into the running lane of a teammate all night. The inability, like with a certain podcasts obsession with Naismith being a "liability", of people to change their mind or not become wedded to their initial judgement is the worst thing about modern culture. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Probably says it all that i forgot he was on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuffle Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I think everyone likes Harry and he’s developed into something of a cult hero. However, he should be no where near the team as just not good enough. Got better last night but sometimes the pure basics of being a footballer at this level just aren’t there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 We've never got the most out of Cornick, with a run of games he's plenty good enough for this level, as proven when scoring against us and other for Luton. His finish for us against Southampton, on the run showed the qualities he does have. Funnily enough, I think he'd be good in the number 10 role. He doesn't have that natural footballer look to him, but he can still be effective is used correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 6 minutes ago, Super said: Probably says it all that i forgot he was on the pitch. So you suffer from alzheimer's then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 10 hours ago, marksy said: Having watched him tonight I couldn’t care less if he never played for us again. You like him then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 11 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Nige did a lot of good things but this was by far his worst piece of business. It’s Steve Jones all over again. without the Tan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 On 13/08/2024 at 22:14, ohhhshauntaylor said: This won’t be popular…. But Cornick did his best work (and scored/was a main stay @ this level for Luton) when playing alongside a “big man”. Yes- his time here has been poor, no question. But we’re yet to actually play to his strengths. Right wing, left wing etc- that’s not his “game”. I actually thought he was ok tonight (low bar obviously) and I think him alongside a Fally/Sinclair would be where we see something more from him. That being said- LM won’t play 2 up top, so no doubt he will move on. I agree but needing to play next to a very specific type of player makes him limited. He's a player who has basically had one very good season in his career but at City is just dead wood. I'd rather see one of our young lads get given bench space than him. Don't hate the guy at all and he has his attributes, but it hasn't worked out here and it's time to cut our losses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) I might be imagining this, but I have a feeling when he signed the Club stated something to the effect that we were going to develop him into a new role/position. My heart sunk. Not quite as low as when we say we’re buying a ‘utility player’ who can play in multiple positions (TGH anyone?), but pretty low. And so it has come to pass. Another massive Club failure. How many times do we have to repeat the same mistake before we realise the Championship is an unforgiving league. Unless you buy a truly exceptional player - way out of our price range - you buy a specialist for one position. Don’t mess around with him, just let him develop his established role and be Championship competent. Harry is not a winger, anyone can see he ain’t got the attributes to be a Championship quality wide player. Amateurish management and recruitment. Edited August 14 by RedRock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) On 14/08/2024 at 00:24, BCFC31 said: The bloke is absolute dog shit offers up nothing what so ever!! Problem is I can't see anyone wanting to pay his wages so he will probably just run his contract down. To be fair, with what you’ve written, I couldn’t tell whether you were talking about Cornick, Bell or Mehmeti. They all offer very little. Edited August 15 by Engvall’s Splinter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 22 hours ago, Shuffle said: I think everyone likes Harry and he’s developed into something of a cult hero. However, he should be no where near the team as just not good enough. Got better last night but sometimes the pure basics of being a footballer at this level just aren’t there. I don’t think they do. Some of what I read looks like pure hatred. Embarrassing. I like him and he was worth adding to our squad at the time but he’s not really what we need right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 9 minutes ago, David Brent said: I don’t think they do. Some of what I read looks like pure hatred. Embarrassing. I like him and he was worth adding to our squad at the time but he’s not really what we need right now. Liking someone & 'are they good enough for the job? - not connected. I like him- seems a thoroughly decent fella & well liked by the group - however, imo he's not been up to what we have needed on the pitch from day one. For that you have to question recruitment - not Harry. Edited August 15 by Son of Fred 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 37 minutes ago, Son of Fred said: Liking someone & 'are they good enough for the job? - not connected. I like him- seems a thoroughly decent fella & well liked by the group - however, imo he's not been up to what we have needed on the pitch from day one. For that you have to question recruitment - not Harry. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 13/08/2024 at 21:58, GrahamC said: Pulis spent an absolute fortune on shite. Jones at £425k was just the worst of many. He wasn’t all bad. He had a very nice sun tan On 14/08/2024 at 00:24, BCFC31 said: The bloke is absolute dog shit offers up nothing what so ever!! Problem is I can't see anyone wanting to pay his wages so he will probably just run his contract down. Don’t beat about the bush. Tell us what you really think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 13/08/2024 at 22:17, marksy said: Having watched him tonight I couldn’t care less if he never played for us again. On 13/08/2024 at 22:18, Lakeside Red said: Needs to be moved on now On 13/08/2024 at 22:28, Henry said: He was often winning headers unchallenged, in acres of space, just to flick it on to no one. Not the sense to try and control the ball and lay it off. On 13/08/2024 at 23:19, Graham76 said: What game were you watching? I thought Cornick was clumsy and ran around like a headless chicken. He’s nowhere near good enough at this level. On 14/08/2024 at 00:24, BCFC31 said: The bloke is absolute dog shit offers up nothing what so ever!! Problem is I can't see anyone wanting to pay his wages so he will probably just run his contract down. On 14/08/2024 at 08:19, Super said: Probably says it all that i forgot he was on the pitch. There in a nutshell is an OTIB agenda! I don't particularly rate the bloke but my word lots (Bell, Mehmeti, Williams, TGH and Sykes at least) were worse than him Tuesday! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksy Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 hours ago, frenchred said: There in a nutshell is an OTIB agenda! I don't particularly rate the bloke but my word lots (Bell, Mehmeti, Williams, TGH and Sykes at least) were worse than him Tuesday! I don’t agree with that at all. Also, the bloke has been here for a while now and has failed to impress. Poor signing and I think there’s better youngsters at the club who should have been given a run out instead of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lerring Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Given the length of this thread (for someone who wasn't our worst player), it does sound like a lot of people wake up with Harry Cornick on their minds, yet don't appear to be feeling fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 I do think he's at risk of playing much of his season in the U21s when Hirakawa, Earthy and potential new wide player are in the squad. He's behind Bell and Sykes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, frenchred said: There in a nutshell is an OTIB agenda! I don't particularly rate the bloke but my word lots (Bell, Mehmeti, Williams, TGH and Sykes at least) were worse than him Tuesday! People are clearly not just judging cornick on Tuesdays performance though are they... so I'm not sure what your point is ? Cornick has had lots of games for us and he's been crap in every single one. Edited August 15 by BCFC31 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt_ Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 14/08/2024 at 03:02, prankerd said: Yeh, your hilarious... Our fanbase is embarrassing at times.. Why would any player give a toss about playing for the badge when we have fans taking the piss out of them for having a new born.. Fans may not think hes good enough to play at this level but what about the rest of the players? Why is cornick singled out? Id be gutted if i was him, literally left luton who got promoted to the prem for us, to be treated like a scapegoat, what about the rest of our attack? Why the sarcasm? It's a fact, at least as far as the quotes I've seen attributed to the manager are concerned, that he did put his back out picking up his new baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 56 minutes ago, mozo said: I do think he's at risk of playing much of his season in the U21s when Hirakawa, Earthy and potential new wide player are in the squad. He's behind Bell and Sykes. Bell ain’t a winger, imo. Needs to be used as a striking option but don’t think he’d suit the line striking position we are playing , similar to Conway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 12 minutes ago, BCFC31 said: People are clearly not just judging cornick on Tuesdays performance though are they... so I'm not sure what your point is ? Cornick has had lots of games for us and he's been crap in every single one. Simply not true! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, marksy said: I don’t agree with that at all. Also, the bloke has been here for a while now and has failed to impress. Poor signing and I think there’s better youngsters at the club who should have been given a run out instead of him. Who are these better youngsters you speak of that we could have used on Tuesday night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 13/08/2024 at 21:54, BobBobBobbin said: a £300k replacement for a £10m winger. context is everything Agreed, but in that case, why sign him at all? A loan til the end of the season to see us through might have been a better option. Or signing no one at all, rather than committing to a decent sized contract for a number of years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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