Rocky Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bcfc24 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 A centre midfielder is not what I thought we’d be going for 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Now this one makes no sense… 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Really? Wasn't aware he was *that* good. Happy to be proven wrong though. Also does this mean there'll be a departure, a big injury we don't know about, or are we running a big squad this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Must be tgh sold 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Probably the only position in the team we don’t need to fill. Bizarre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Really? Wasn't aware he was *that* good. Happy to be proven wrong though. Also does this mean there'll be a departure, a big injury we don't know about, or are we running a big squad this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Another Central Midfielder? Unless someone's off this seems a strange one and wonder where it leaves Gardner-Hickman in particular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 What on earth?! Hope he means Rovers as a typo. Do we really need this? Bonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cidercity1987 Posted August 22 Popular Post Share Posted August 22 As a massive critic of the Lansdown's and Tinnion after the Pearson debacle, I am slowly trying to recover some respect for them with some good recent signings. If we are going back down the Johnson route of throwing literally everything at an unproven manager whilst giving Pearson practically nothing then sadly that is not going to help my negative opinions. Absolutely nonsensical rumour unless at least TGH is going somewhere but then again is McGuane even currently getting in the Oxford side? 29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Just now, cidercity1987 said: As a massive critic of the Lansdown's and Tinnion after the Pearson debacle, I am slowly trying to recover some respect for them with some good recent signings. If we are going back down the Johnson route of throwing literally everything at an unproven manager whilst giving Pearson practically nothing then sadly that is not going to help my negative opinions. Absolutely nonsensical rumour unless at least TGH is going somewhere but then again is McGuane even currently getting in the Oxford side? He was dropped by Oxford in April as didn’t suit their style of play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HengroveReds Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Another one! @Davefevs over to you - any good? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 3 minutes ago, HoldenBall said: Probably the only position in the team we don’t need to fill. Bizarre This. We have Naismith and McCrorie who can play CM too. Makes no sense. We need a winger as priority and another CB secondary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 He's a good player btw. Whether we need another player in his position is very debatable. Yet if Bird or Knight are injured for a large part of the season. It's a massive drop to Williams or TGH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 He’s being backed to the nines here. **** me. TGH must be off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Just now, petehinton said: He’s being backed to the nines here. **** me. TGH must be off. You seem annoyed? 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 I guess no midfielder could've done their ACL between the open training session yesterday and now? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Just now, RedRoss said: You seem annoyed? Not at all, surprised/a bit bemused! Certainly a change from the last few years isn’t it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted August 22 Author Share Posted August 22 Naismith is going? This lad might be a DM but also CB if necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 minute ago, Shauntaylor85 said: This. We have Naismith and McCrorie who can play CM too. Makes no sense. We need a winger as priority and another CB secondary. I feel like our squad numbers are at the maximum limit where any more players is just a waste of budget. A winger if at least two of Sykes/Mehmeti/Bell/Cornick are being binned off and a CB only if Naismith goes, but we aren't going to get a better back up than Naismith surely. You don't change Vyner/Dickie pairing after last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) Does he not play most of his games in wider midfield positions? Not been in their squad for first two league games…..do not see this one being true….. Edited August 22 by Loosey Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Just now, petehinton said: Not at all, surprised/a bit bemused! Certainly a change from the last few years isn’t it. I guess FFP played a part in that pre-Scott sale? It's a relief that we're investing though innit! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Or, does this signing confirm Bird at #10 may be more permanent than first thought. McGuane (DM) in, Cornick (W) out, Bird now seen as a 10 and Twine seen as a left midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpty Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 He doesn’t have much of a pedigree Arsenal and Barcelona. Although he is qualified to play for ROI, so it makes sense to sign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted August 22 Author Share Posted August 22 (edited) And of course he has dual Irish citizenship Edited August 22 by Rocky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HengroveReds Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Defo looks like a different pedigree to what we have already, one what manning has previously worked with and can work with again to get the best out of him, came through the ranks of arsenal & Barca B so must have something locked away. Trust the process, Trust the manager - pretty much every signing manning has made bar Mebude has hit the ground and impressed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David Brent Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 6 minutes ago, mozo said: I guess FFP played a part in that pre-Scott sale? It's a relief that we're investing though innit! What about post-Scott sale? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Just remembered Marley Watkins. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hocca Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Has to be a loan for TGH then. Not surprising he’s been poor lately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Hope low fee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 7 minutes ago, Hocca said: Has to be a loan for TGH then. Not surprising he’s been poor lately. Mad cause between his wonder goal vs Boro and the West Ham replay last season he was probably the fans' favourite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, TammyAB said: Mad cause between his wonder goal vs Boro and the West Ham replay last season he was probably the fans' favourite We only activated the clause to buy him in January didn't we? Seems a bit of a waste 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCOFSWEDEN Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 TGH must be sold and Benarous out on loan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_b Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 3 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: We only activated the clause to buy him in January didn't we? Seems a bit of a waste Was it a requirement to buy or option? If requirement, triggering it in January and having Weimann go the other direction reduces the cost to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 minute ago, BCFCOFSWEDEN said: TGH must be sold and Benarous out on loan? You must be a desperate club to want Benarous on loan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpy88 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Apparently TGH in talks with Birmingham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Just now, Shauntaylor85 said: Not sure this guy ever gets anything right. Could be TGH needs a return to midlands for family reasons. Odd that we made it a perm deal though if it’s the case he’s off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCOFSWEDEN Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 5 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Not sure this guy ever gets anything right. Could be TGH needs a return to midlands for family reasons. Odd that we made it a perm deal though if it’s the case he’s off. He knows that he will not get any minutes here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 22 Admin Share Posted August 22 23 minutes ago, Hocca said: Has to be a loan for TGH then. Not surprising he’s been poor lately. When was this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 If he's an upgrade on TGH, and TGH is indeed going, fair enough. Have to be ruthless. If TGH is staying, even I think we're getting overloaded. And I've been calling for more depth for years. But that midfield will start to feel too heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hocca Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 3 minutes ago, phantom said: When was this? Coventry in the cup , every game after his goal against Middlesbrough , not quite good enough for championship imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 17 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: We only activated the clause to buy him in January didn't we? Seems a bit of a waste I was never overly sure Manning actually wanted him in the first place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Strange one. Not a player I know anything about but there is absolutely no doubt they are backing their man. Not a bad thing as more chance of us being successful but where the hell was this level of backing under the previous PROVEN manager? 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Have seen its TGH to brum. No idea if loan or permanent but bringing this guy in would suggest the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 This is on the Birmingham forum from last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyjimmy Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 57 minutes ago, HengroveReds said: Another one! @Davefevs over to you - any good? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: I was never overly sure Manning actually wanted him in the first place. Yeah, that’s the impression I got too. Suspect TGH has also looked at what’s in front of him and thought he isn’t getting too many starts this season unless we have an injury crisis and just wants to play. Edited August 22 by Kibs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said: He was dropped by Oxford in April as didn’t suit their style of play. In fairness, he is very much a Manning player. A lot of people their end saying he was their best player under him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, HengroveReds said: Another one! @Davefevs over to you - any good? @Harry and I picked up on him last season. He was their standout in the preseason friendly at the HPC too. Was kind of a bit of a shock to find this player I’d not really heard of and then see he’d been at Arsenal and Barcelona B. Obviously good pedigree. Clearly will fit what Manning wants. 29 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: We only activated the clause to buy him in January didn't we? Seems a bit of a waste Seems that we reduced the buy-price by Weimann’s wages, so region of £1.0m rather than £1.3m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 6 minutes ago, Kibs said: Yeah, that’s the impression I got too. Suspect TGH has also looked at what’s in front of him and thought he isn’t getting too many starts this season unless we have an injury crisis and just wants to play. There’s definitely a player there but so many options ahead of him. Thought he was awful in the cup against Cov. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardy Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 So this looks like a squad player moving out and a squad player moving in? Is McGuane really going to be pushing for a starting place? I can’t see it. if we are making a net profit from the deals then it makes some sense from that perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 3 minutes ago, Jose said: There’s definitely a player there but so many options ahead of him. Thought he was awful in the cup against Cov. For me worst player on the pitch, stunned he got a full 90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 As the closing of the window gets closer the amount of conjecture and rumour dramatically increases. It’ll be just the same on every other clubs forums. Fans just seem to love speculating on what’s happening at their club. In reality none of us know anything. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 I guess he offers something a little different to TGH, and indeed Knight, Bird and Williams. He’s more of a driver with the ball, a more powerful runner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: @Harry and I picked up on him last season. He was their standout in the preseason friendly at the HPC too. Was kind of a bit of a shock to find this player I’d not really heard of and then see he’d been at Arsenal and Barcelona B. Obviously good pedigree. Clearly will fit what Manning wants. Seems that we reduced the buy-price by Weimann’s wages, so region of £1.0m rather than £1.3m. That heat map is less box to box and more A centre circle to centre circle. Perhaps after Saturday Manning feels he needs a solid anchor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 minute ago, James54De said: I guess he offers something a little different to TGH, and indeed Knight, Bird and Williams. He’s more of a driver with the ball, a more powerful runner. I would have been more comfortable with James coming back. We already seem looser this season defensively and that won't get better playing a midfield perm two of Knight, Bird, Mcguane as is the general OTIB wish. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Just now, Port Said Red said: That heat map is less box to box and more A centre circle to centre circle. Perhaps after Saturday Manning feels he needs a solid anchor. I think he just wants someone more suitable than TGH to be an option. Which makes you wonder why LM signed him? I don’t mind TGH tbh, I know lots on here don’t. But I assume you are referring to Williams, who you don’t rate / like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Just now, cidercity1987 said: I would have been more comfortable with James coming back. We already seem looser this season defensively and that won't get better playing a midfield perm two of Knight, Bird, Mcguane as is the general OTIB wish. Problem with James is he's looking for a 2 year deal and is 33 now. Think we had some of his best years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 minute ago, cidercity1987 said: I would have been more comfortable with James coming back. We already seem looser this season defensively and that won't get better playing a midfield perm two of Knight, Bird, Mcguane as is the general OTIB wish. In fairness I don’t think James was a great screen for the CBs per se, but he did other stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, mozo said: I guess FFP played a part in that pre-Scott sale? It's a relief that we're investing though innit! For 2 years it did yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Unsure what to make of this one.. Not necessarily a priority position, age 25 likely at his ceiling or approaching his ceiling in his position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colemanballs Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 From the Oxford forum: "Classic 'best for both parties' move. Marcus is a very talented player but one of the least adaptable we've had in years. Those few months where he played for Manning as a deep midfielder picking up the ball, wriggling out of trouble, progressing 10 yards then releasing he wasn't just good he was among the most effective midfielders in L1, certainly the classiest. Conversely his displays culminating in the 0-5 at Bolton when asked to do a *slightly* more complicated job under Des were so bad I honestly think we'd have been better with 10 men." 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think he just wants someone more suitable than TGH to be an option. Which makes you wonder why LM signed him? Maybe Brum are just offering a very lucrative package and we know we can go and get McGuane for a similar amount. Suits all concerned... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 49 minutes ago, t_b said: Was it a requirement to buy or option? If requirement, triggering it in January and having Weimann go the other direction reduces the cost to us. Option 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 6 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Maybe Brum are just offering a very lucrative package and we know we can go and get McGuane for a similar amount. Suits all concerned... More, why did he sign him permanently in January, not why is he letting him go now. Now makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshorts Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, TammyAB said: Or, does this signing confirm Bird at #10 may be more permanent than first thought. McGuane (DM) in, Cornick (W) out, Bird now seen as a 10 and Twine seen as a left midfielder. This is my thinking, confirms that Bird is playing number 10 role. So he wanted another CM option. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: More, why did he sign him permanently in January, not why is he letting him go now. Now makes sense. I’d surmise that Tinnion had already wrapped it up and Liam had no say. I said from day 1 that TGH would not suit Manning so I always thought it was not his doing 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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