Malago Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 https://www.bcfc.co.uk/city-men-news/gardner-hickman-signs-permanent-deal/ 10 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Great business, WBA desperate for cash so the rumoured £1.3 million is peanuts and I'm guessing the Weimann deal offset some wages. Been outstanding for us this season and will only improve. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) Great bit of business. I can see him getting better and better and he's done well so far. You can tell he's bought right into the club already. Edited January 15 by RedRoss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 The rumour confirmed at last - Weimann to WBA and TGH signs for City. Good deal all around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRobin Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Anything you want and more ! Gardiner Hickman superstore! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip King Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Delighted to hear this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 No brainer. Looked good and will only improve.I would like him to grab the game by the scruff of the neck more and drive forward. Hes capable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagon Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Really pleased we’ve completed this now. He’s done really well and looks like he has loads of potential to get even better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Yes, really good footballer,, good news that hes signed on a perm!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 To me it seemed a good deal to start with, if we have knocked something off of the deal by bringing forward AW departure that is brilliant business. Weimann has been a great servant, but he's played a bit part role and would leave in the summer while TGH is at a good age to progress. Good work IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Good business. Andi has been great for us and I hope we give him a big send off when he officially leaves but TGH is a real blossoming talent that strengthens us going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 8 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: To me it seemed a good deal to start with, if we have knocked something off of the deal by bringing forward AW departure that is brilliant business. Weimann has been a great servant, but he's played a bit part role and would leave in the summer while TGH is at a good age to progress. Good work IMO. The ITKer from West Brom suggests we shaved a bit off, but he also said Weimann was perm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The ITKer from West Brom suggests we shaved a bit off, but he also said Weimann was perm. My thoughts are that I'm delighted we've signed him. But I'm wondering why we choose to do it now? I get that there may have been a cost saving element to it but he could get himself injured and be out for the next 12 months in the next game. Keeping him on loan would have potentially given us that bit of safety net. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Very happy to hear this. Some talent, versatile plus clear and obvious room for growth. Seems to have settled in well, bit of a snip at £1.3m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: My thoughts are that I'm delighted we've signed him. But I'm wondering why we choose to do it now? I get that there may have been a cost saving element to it but he could get himself injured and be out for the next 12 months in the next game. Keeping him on loan would have potentially given us that bit of safety net. Yep, that’s a risk. Shit happens. But an opportunity to save money on Weimann too. Swings and roundabouts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeRandomBristolian Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Great bit of business this and pleased we have made the deal permanent. He's done well so far at the club, settled in well and will only improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Good news been quietly impressed with his growing influence within the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 16 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: My thoughts are that I'm delighted we've signed him. But I'm wondering why we choose to do it now? I get that there may have been a cost saving element to it but he could get himself injured and be out for the next 12 months in the next game. Keeping him on loan would have potentially given us that bit of safety net. Because WBA wanted Weimann. So believe we managed to shave £300k off during negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laner Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Good news. I've one question though. Under league rules, are teams allowed to print names on shirts over two lines? TGH looks a bit silly arced around his number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I’m always a bit meh about loans becoming permanent deals. fingers burnt so many times. The player you think you’re buying turns out to be a duffer. lets hope he grows into a magician. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 40 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: My thoughts are that I'm delighted we've signed him. But I'm wondering why we choose to do it now? I get that there may have been a cost saving element to it but he could get himself injured and be out for the next 12 months in the next game. Keeping him on loan would have potentially given us that bit of safety net. It's clearly wrapped up with the Weimann deal isn't it? We were happy to get the price for TGH nudged down a little whilst AW's wages were off the books. They get someone experienced, reliable and clearly a good egg and get a fee now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 16 minutes ago, DaveInSA said: I’m always a bit meh about loans becoming permanent deals. fingers burnt so many times. The player you think you’re buying turns out to be a duffer. lets hope he grows into a magician. I can only really think of Tony Dinning and Lee Tomlin as bad loan-into-permanent deals - are there more? That said, can anyone think of any successful loan-into-permanent deals we’ve had?! There’s probably some obvious ones… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Always on the cards after he moved down here so quickly after the loan was announced. Glad it has happened all the same though, didn't want to hear the news he had gone elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydered Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 SSN have this down as a free. Not suggesting it's true for a second, just highlighting it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Robbored said: The rumour confirmed at last - Weimann to WBA and TGH signs for City. Good deal all around. Weimann only on loan it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 20 minutes ago, DaveInSA said: I’m always a bit meh about loans becoming permanent deals. fingers burnt so many times. The player you think you’re buying turns out to be a duffer. lets hope he grows into a magician. TGH is still learning the game. For him the move is about building a solid career for himself by playing regular first team football. I wouldn't allow the likes of Dinning and Tomlin who both had a very different agenda to cloud your judgement!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, BigTone said: Weimann only on loan it seems I tend to believe what @Davefevs said 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: The ITKer from West Brom suggests we shaved a bit off, but he also said Weimann was perm After all, he's OOC in the summer so the loan would see that deal end and they can give him another year or whatever. I guess it amounts to the same thing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderMeUp Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 13 minutes ago, The Journalist said: I can only really think of Tony Dinning and Lee Tomlin as bad loan-into-permanent deals - are there more? That said, can anyone think of any successful loan-into-permanent deals we’ve had?! There’s probably some obvious ones… Palmer? Does Dasilva count! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Tomlin was great on loan then put in decent to good numbers for about 3 months after joining permanently- free kick vs Aston Villa was a sublime strike but his attitude was suspect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitchinRed Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: The ITKer from West Brom suggests we shaved a bit off, but he also said Weimann was perm. Weimann definitely a loan https://www.bcfc.co.uk/city-men-news/weimann-heads-to-hawthorns-on-loan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 The penalty miss v Burton was awful too. A real nadir..deliberate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 27 minutes ago, The Journalist said: I can only really think of Tony Dinning and Lee Tomlin as bad loan-into-permanent deals - are there more? That said, can anyone think of any successful loan-into-permanent deals we’ve had?! There’s probably some obvious ones… Andy Cole 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Sir Geoff said: Andy Cole Ah, I’m too young for that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 28 minutes ago, The Journalist said: I can only really think of Tony Dinning and Lee Tomlin as bad loan-into-permanent deals - are there more? That said, can anyone think of any successful loan-into-permanent deals we’ve had?! There’s probably some obvious ones… Personally I'd say that both Palmer and Tomlin were, on the whole, bad loan - perms. Kalas was a successful one no? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 30 minutes ago, The Journalist said: I can only really think of Tony Dinning and Lee Tomlin as bad loan-into-permanent deals - are there more? That said, can anyone think of any successful loan-into-permanent deals we’ve had?! There’s probably some obvious ones… Liam Fontaine, Wade Elliott. Outstanding signings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ZiderMeUp said: Palmer? Does Dasilva count! Dasilva is a good shout! Palmer! Of course - mind-boggling. Bang average on loan, well stocked in his position and cost a fortune… and we still signed him. Arguably even worse than Tomlin and Dinning for that reason! Edited January 15 by The Journalist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Personally I'd say that both Palmer and Tomlin were, on the whole, bad loan - perms. Kalas was a successful one no? I think you’d say Kalas was successful, albeit the way it worked out at £8m probably not value for money! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 DO DO DOOO TAYLOR GARDNER-HICKMAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, The Journalist said: I think you’d say Kalas was successful, albeit the way it worked out at £8m probably not value for money! Yeh I just looked actually and he ended up playing only 106 times in the four years he was permanently with us, all whilst being out record signing and (probably) highest paid player (ever?). I guess if that's correct then maybe he wasn't a great conversion from loanee to permanent. Like DaSilva I actually think that is one that could be spun either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Tomlin was great on loan then put in decent to good numbers for about 3 months after joining permanently- free kick vs Aston Villa was a sublime strike but his attitude was suspect? I remember he turned and started screaming all sorts at LJ after that goal...weird bloke that's for sure, imagine that talent but in a different guy Edited January 15 by The Nest Egg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 8 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Liam Fontaine, Wade Elliott. Outstanding signings. Andy Cole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 7 minutes ago, The Nest Egg said: I remember he turned and started screaming all sorts at LJ after that goal...weird bloke that's for sure, imagine that talent but in a different guy Technical ability Premier League. Attitude, application, pulling in the same direction..Parks League? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Glad he’s signed permanently. I like him as a player and he has potential. Good shot on him and good at set pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Alligator Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) This is, as said previously, is good business. I hope that this becomes the rule rather than the exception. With the way that football is run financially today, shrewd work in the transfer market (coupled with a successful academy) is probably the only way for clubs like ours to progress. Credit to those involved in both deals today. Edited January 15 by Red_Alligator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: I tend to believe what @Davefevs said Believe what you want by @Davefevs but the OS says its a loan deal which indicates to me its a loan deal Edited January 15 by BigTone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin Groovy Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 53 minutes ago, The Nest Egg said: DO DO DOOO TAYLOR GARDNER-HICKMAN Tried to sing that to Funky Gibbon at first! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, BigTone said: Believe what you want by @Davefevs but the OS says its a loan deal Like I said , amounts to the same thing as he's OOC in the summer , so he's Permanently out of here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 19 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Like I said , amounts to the same thing as he's OOC in the summer , so he's Permanently out of here Likeky I agree but not given Edited January 15 by BigTone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loderingo Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Good signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelton Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Adam Matthews,I think signed permanently and he was utter crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Good bit of business. Can't help but think we got the deal done now just in case he continued to do well and the Baggies wanted him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 His adventure so far has been positive and probably he can still improve so...good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 From my mate who is a WBA fan…’Gutted to lose TGH’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: The ITKer from West Brom suggests we shaved a bit off, but he also said Weimann was perm. Perm Shaved a bit off Dave- finally some football analysis I get 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Gimme Shelton said: Adam Matthews,I think signed permanently and he was utter crap We never signed him permanently, 2 loan spells. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, The Journalist said: I can only really think of Tony Dinning and Lee Tomlin as bad loan-into-permanent deals - are there more? That said, can anyone think of any successful loan-into-permanent deals we’ve had?! There’s probably some obvious ones… Adam Matthew was another year loan….that was bad. Cost us Ayling too! 3 hours ago, 1960maaan said: I tend to believe what @Davefevs said After all, he's OOC in the summer so the loan would see that deal end and they can give him another year or whatever. I guess it amounts to the same thing . I was only quoting Dood on Twitter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 10 hours ago, GrahamC said: We never signed him permanently, 2 loan spells. My memory is shocking , I really thought it was made permanent after the initial loan. Just looked on Wiki. 21 games , thought he played much more than that too. Edited January 16 by 1960maaan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 25 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: My memory is shocking , I really thought it was made permanent after the initial loan. Just looked on Wiki. 21 games , thought he played much more than that too. Always remember driving down Regent St in Clifton & he was crossing the road. Severely tempted to knock him down, second spell he was absolutely useless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitrom Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 15 hours ago, The Journalist said: I can only really think of Tony Dinning and Lee Tomlin as bad loan-into-permanent deals - are there more? That said, can anyone think of any successful loan-into-permanent deals we’ve had?! There’s probably some obvious ones… Nathan Baker...... kind of. I would say successful if accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 19 hours ago, Lydered said: SSN have this down as a free. Not suggesting it's true for a second, just highlighting it Well it technically is but the fee for TGH went down accordingly. We could have sold Weimann for £9 million and bought TGH for £10 million. The difference between the 2 fees is what matters to the clubs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 What a great piece of business this is……when you think that we’ve paid c.£3.5m in total for Knight & TGH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davefevs Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Last night I got this. Seems likely domino effect / spiders web as Ashton used to say. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Liked TGH he’ll do well in League 1, best for all I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 5 minutes ago, Ashton_Red said: It would make the McGuane move make sense but I also wouldn’t believe a word he says tbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Ah well, he got us one great goal, which was much needed at the time. I still think he has more to show, perhaps going back to the Midlands is more comfortable for him? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) It's a shame that he's going but if we can get our money back on him then happy days if he doesn't want to be here, or Manning doesn't want him here. Not sure on McGuane myself but he might not get many minutes anyway Edited August 22 by TammyAB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 This is a surprise after we'd converted his loan to a permanent deal (and there goes my prediction of him being the first City player to get a Red card this season) but changes happen. I know nothing about McGuane if he is the replacement (and even wonder why we need to replace him) but it's, another Oxford link. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 FWIW, TGH statistically outperformed McGuane in the League last year (G+A) and is 2 and a bit years younger. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 TGH was clearly going to be a bit-part player for us and unlikely to get regular game time. A move to Birmingham would give him regular games. He looked a decent fit in an average side when he arrived but Twine and Earthy arriving have quickly made him surplus to requirements now. Good move all round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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