Fordy62 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, RedReg said: Manning out Ridiculous that people are calling for Manning’s head already. Give him £50m more to spend and a new contract and then call for his head FFS. 2 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 I did say in the summer give Manning 10 games. Then if we are not in the the top 10, he goes. But what is really need is that some rich American or anybody takes pity on us and buys the club. It is our only hope. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, RedReg said: Manning out I’ve said elsewhere need to give him 10 games but much more of today and patience will wear thin very quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 One of the best defences in the league last season to this... what has happened to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 If I hear the word ‘behaviours’ in the post match interview I’ll wet the bed. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 You’ve really got to question whether Manning is he right man for this job 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, RedReg said: Manning out Modern, young, new tactics blah, blah. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Any decent away crowd we always flop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Genuinely probably our worst result since Lincoln beat us 3-1 in the cup imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: That Manning needs to sort it out! That said, I thought we were taking Derby a bit lightly as fans, tricky but winnable I thought. This is dreadful however, post half time. It was until we let them score. Game over for me then against a Warne side tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, 2015 said: This Derby side is absolutely awful as well and this isn't being bitter either, player for player we're better Plays to its strengths though & has more points than us. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Billy Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Now a good opportunity next game to reset and play everyone in their right position and play our strongest team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_V1 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 We really are a bit sh*t aren’t we. Losing dickie is a huge blow as Naismith should be nowhere near starting as a defender for us and is a huge downgrade, hopefully Mcnally can hit the ground running and not get injured….. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, !james said: Manning out Lansdown out Tinnion out Subs before 60 mins Armstrong is useless……in front of goal Max is league one level…….no one has said that for a while. other than that pretty spot on Did I miss anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderwithtommy Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, !james said: Manning out Lansdown out Tinnion out Subs before 60 mins Armstrong is useless Max is league one level Did I miss anything? Appreciate the sarcasm but what have you actually got to say? This thread is literally the match day thread, and that was as bad as you could wish to see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbury Red Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 In the second half all the players with no exception have just looked powder puff in challenges and just not got any clue of how we are playing. the most horrendous performance I’ve seen in ages 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortInTheMorning Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 That was pretty bloody depressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 I suppose you could call it a good performance on the basis that we lost 3-0 when we should have lost 6-0. This team are going nowhere under Manning. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, Malvern Red said: That expected final position thread could get feisty this evening There are 42 games left ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, BetterRedthanBlue said: One of the best defences in the league last season to this... what has happened to them. Open style - and only that style. No Plan B - as Oxford warned us. Need to see how they react to today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, Roadrunner said: I did say in the summer give Manning 10 games. Then if we are not in the the top 10, he goes. But what is really need is that some rich American or anybody takes pity on us and buys the club. It is our only hope. That wouldn't change anything, the Lansdown family is putting in the maximum allowed under FFP. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 5 points from 4 games, exactly the same as last year. Except these 5 points have cost a manager his job and we've spent a large chunk of the Scott money. Happy days in the board room. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, !james said: Manning out Lansdown out Tinnion out Subs before 60 mins Armstrong is useless Max is league one level Did I miss anything? Im his biggest critic, but point 6 isn’t a good one. The rest seem reasonable mind. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Exactly why you have to score when on top first half. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, ciderwithtommy said: Appreciate the sarcasm but what have you actually got to say? This thread is literally the match day thread, and that was as bad as you could wish to see. Oh yes it's bad but the overreaction in this thread is hilarious. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Fuber said: It was until we let them score. Game over for me then against a Warne side tbh. Had we equalised perhaps, but yeah vs a Warne side when you concede first it can be very difficult away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 If there are people on here who seriously think play-offs are the aim - you need your head read That was embarrassing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Got spanked!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, Red Billy said: Now a good opportunity next game to reset and play everyone in their right position and play our strongest team. Spot on, that means no Williams, no Sykes, no Mehmeti, no Naismith. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, !james said: Oh yes it's bad but the overreaction in this thread is hilarious. We could get stuffed every single game and the reality would still never be as bad as these threads make out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, Sir Geoff said: 5 points from 4 games, exactly the same as last year. Except these 5 points have cost a manager his job and we've spent a large chunk of the Scott money. Happy days in the board room. Against pretty poor teams in my book too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1team Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Well at the risk of being called a bed wetter that was funking awful. Last 20 mins of the 1st half we were gifting them space and time and yet at half time no changes. In some way I wish we'd been shit from the start, but to capitulate in that fashion to a team as average as that is beyond embarrassing. That is on the coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanta_Red Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Ah well. Everton. Ha ha. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyy66 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Alan Dicks said: You’ve really got to question whether Manning is he right man for this job On this showing perhaps not. We could always get his mate in from Oxford who was his assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidjupiter Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, !james said: Oh yes it's bad but the overreaction in this thread is hilarious. I thought it was an overreaction at half time for sure. The second half was diabolical though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Shows how much we miss Dickie? Only upside of today’s performance will be reading @Olé’s away match report, which should be suitably scathing, and dripping with sarcasm! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 A decent start and then just an hour of shite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern Red Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, pillred said: There are 42 games left ffs. I’m actually parodying the forum ffs. Personally think we will finish 11th and thought that before today’s game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 3 minutes ago, David Brent said: If I hear the word ‘behaviours’ in the post match interview I’ll wet the bed. That may be one of the 'bits.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Clearly, Manning has got passing and movement improved to a degree, but this chalk and cheese over 2 halves has to stop. Zero in game management as well. Defensive panic comes on too readily when calm heads required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortInTheMorning Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Bird was awful today. Twine should be in the ten. Bird or Williams and Knight behind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 4 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Ridiculous that people are calling for Manning’s head already. Give him £50m more to spend and a new contract and then call for his head FFS. Yep, that’s what happened with the last chancer we had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Roadrunner said: I did say in the summer give Manning 10 games. Then if we are not in the the top 10, he goes. But what is really need is that some rich American or anybody takes pity on us and buys the club. It is our only hope. It won't change much financially, maybe a bit more under FFP can be put in but not a huge amount more. I think we have headroom. Edited August 31 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Dreadful performance. Even worse result. On another day we could have conceded 5. Very concerning capitulation in the 2nd half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 3 minutes ago, Roadrunner said: I did say in the summer give Manning 10 games. Then if we are not in the the top 10, he goes. But what is really need is that some rich American or anybody takes pity on us and buys the club. It is our only hope. You know as well as I do that that won't be happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Got a nice 120 mile drive home to mull that over, it was so quiet here even when they were winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 A defeat is a defeat - it happens. But I am getting really really really ****** off with these programmed ******* sub on or about the 60th minute. It’s so robotic and just shows a lack of ability to manage a game. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 I think the sensible approach is to massively overreact to this result, and then be ridiculously optimistic if we win the next game. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) Well we are 13th so familiar territory! Edited August 31 by One Team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Dolman Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Well I’m afraid that was poor. We had no answer to the physicality of Derby and by then end they appeared to be superior in their fitness also. It’s been said before but I don’t ever see much from LM to change the course of a game in match. subs pretty much like for like although with Mehmeti and Yu we did keep a bit more width to try and vary the play but generally we just kept going trying to do the same thing that wasn’t working for the whole game. we started brightly but very quickly Derby had our number. Max our best performer today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Everton 2 up on 86 minutes....and lose. It could be worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Dr Balls said: Shows how much we miss Dickie? Only upside of today’s performance will be reading @Olé’s away match report, which should be suitably scathing, and dripping with sarcasm! Don’t think he would have made much difference. We got out fought all over the pitch That really was weak as piss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted August 31 Author Share Posted August 31 Well, that was very disappointing. Few immediate thoughts: If you don’t take your chances, you aren’t going to win football matches. In the end we were fortunate it was only three Please, please, please can we learn how to take a throw in, and how to defend from throw ins. It’s schoolboy stuff. I counted at least five occasions when we lost the ball from our throw and their second goal came from them having a throw in and having rehearsed what to with it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, pillred said: There are 42 games left ffs. but it's hard to be positive when one of the teams we should be easily beating have just tanked us 3-0, especially when we dominated the first half, had better opportunities and wasted them all. A lot of people talking about attractive football and it looked great until we conceded but at that point we just kept trying the same thing over and over until half time. At that point Manning needs to understand they get 15 minutes with their coach who has been assessing the game, he sent his team out having sussed us out and we made no changes so the result was we got picked apart as we refused to adapt and change. Warne just schooled Manning in that second half, he identified our weaknesses, I clearly felt he said "takes shots from outside the box if you have to" because they did and it caused so many problems. Meanwhile we made no changes at all, not just subs but literally came out and did the same thing before the break as if Warne was going to do the same. Very poor planning from Manning which is a shame when he seemed to have found a style for us, the issue is the same as Pearsons undoing though, no back up plan, no ability to change on the fly. Where Pearson would struggle to deviate from counter football under Manning we seem to struggle to deviate from the passing patterns he's coaching. If your plan A fails then you need a good plan B, Warne had a plan B, we had nothing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 7 minutes ago, BobBobBobbin said: might be the worst we've played and the worst we've been tactically since the infamous Birmingham away game. Absolutely woeful in every single department. If we play with a 4 we need a pivot player away from home. If we play with a 3 we can carry the two 8's. Better learn up fast Liam, my guy. Surely the 4-0 at Stoke in May? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 I'd like to see us try 3-5-2. Lets hope LM isn't so stubborn not to give it a go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 One word for that second half. Atrocious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betelgeuse Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Anyone get the feeling we’re just going to be stuck in this lower to mid table void for infinity . No matter who we sign, who is managing, who owns the club and the plans they have, it’s always the same result come the end of may the majority of the time. my first season was 92-93 and I believe we finished something like 15th that year in this league? 30 plus years later and that’s pretty much where we are now :laugh:. Its pretty soul destroying this football thing sometimes! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 64% possession .....................and we achieved nothing? How can LM see Naismith as a competent defender? It worries me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Bong Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, One Team said: Well we are 13th so familiar territory! And that is where we will finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, lenred said: A defeat is a defeat - it happens. But I am getting really really really ****** off with these programmed ******* sub on or about the 60th minute. It’s so robotic and just shows a lack of ability to manage a game. Absolutely agreed, if a player is playing bad or strategically not matching the opposition you know they're on for atleast 60 minutes. Don't think he would hook anyone after 20 minutes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Had we equalised perhaps, but yeah vs a Warne side when you concede first it can be very difficult away from home. Warne = experienced and successful manager who has achieved promotions and is straight-talking. Manning = an inexperienced coach who has achieved no promotions and is prone to talking BS. The problem is we spaffed the cash on someone like Manning in the past and then needed someone like Warne to get us out of that mess, only to go back to the previous model that didn’t work and put the club at risk off FFP sanctions. Brilliant! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 6 minutes ago, Andrew_V1 said: We really are a bit sh*t aren’t we. Losing dickie is a huge blow as Naismith should be nowhere near starting as a defender for us and is a huge downgrade, hopefully Mcnally can hit the ground running and not get injured….. Can you honestly say that Naismith was the reason for that awful last hour performance? There were a lot more issues that had nothing to do with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, Eddie Hitler said: That wouldn't change anything, the Lansdown family is putting in the maximum allowed under FFP. I don’t think there is any argument Manning has been backed. The question is whether SL is backing the right manager…as always. Need some care as lots of new players, take time to click etc etc, but gut feel we have lots of interesting new players, but have stripped ourselves of old hairy experienced players who can organise the rest when it’s going a bit pair shaped. Our team is less than the sum of its parts. Will give it ten games, but first and foremost need to learn again to defend as a unit. At the risk of ‘going there’, NP would be head butting the lot of them after that. Could always be an Everton fan I suppose. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellie Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 7 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: That wouldn't change anything, the Lansdown family is putting in the maximum allowed under FFP. Unfortunately always backing the wrong person 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobBobbin Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Surely the 4-0 at Stoke in May? end of season blow-out in a dead rubber; I can tolerate those. We've been on the right end of a few of those over the years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Also if we needed a "10" why do we sign one and play him on the wing?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, Slack said: Absolutely agreed, if a player is playing bad or strategically not matching the opposition you know they're on for atleast 60 minutes. Don't think he would hook anyone after 20 minutes It happens regardless of how we are doing in the game. It’s a shit show mate and been going on far too long now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Horrific game and could have been much worse if not for Max who had a great game, that double save was brilliant. Earlier season optimism destroyed, theres some comfort in familiarity I suppose. I await with great ennui the post match interview from Manning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, robin_unreliant said: Can you honestly say that Naismith was the reason for that awful last hour performance? There were a lot more issues that had nothing to do with him. Absolutely not. I can’t think of one player out there today who came out of that with any credit Bunch of gutless pussies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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