Two crap defeats have destroyed us, really?

[robin_unreliant]

2 hours ago, Simon bristol said:

Yes, i just want us to not be shite for a change!

I'd say we've been mediocre rather than shite. Expectations however are for better. We have avoided being relegated but bored the shite out of the fanbase.

[Dullmoan Tone]

18 hours ago, Fuber said:

And now we're almost bottom six with a net spend of £6m from money Pearson helped us make.

Pearson didn’t sign Scott or Semenyo - he simply played our talent (as would any Manager)

[Mr Popodopolous]

6 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said:

Pearson didn’t sign Scott or Semenyo - he simply played our talent (as would any Manager)

Semenyo got multiple loans out although was starting to show signs in 2020-21.

There was also...

Benarous- a real shame.

Bell

Latterly Conway

A revitalisation or proper integration of O'Leary, Pring and most remarkably Vyner- I say that given the views on him in Summer 2022.

[Sir Geoff]

1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Semenyo got multiple loans out although was starting to show signs in 2020-21.

There was also...

Benarous- a real shame.

Bell

Latterly Conway

A revitalisation or proper integration of O'Leary, Pring and most remarkably Vyner- I say that given the views on him in Summer 2022.

Don't forget Mannings comments about bringing in U21 players before looking at new signings. That's going well.

[Mr Popodopolous]

5 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Don't forget Mannings comments about bringing in U21 players before looking at new signings. That's going well.

Oh yeah, the pathway appears to have just hit a logjam...at best.

[Fuber]

20 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said:

Pearson didn’t sign Scott or Semenyo - he simply played our talent (as would any Manager)

I'm not even going to argue.

[Dullmoan Tone]

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Semenyo got multiple loans out although was starting to show signs in 2020-21.

There was also...

Benarous- a real shame.

Bell

Latterly Conway

A revitalisation or proper integration of O'Leary, Pring and most remarkably Vyner- I say that given the views on him in Summer 2022.

But the OP credited Pearson with generating £6m - I can’t see how this is correct-Semenyo got his break under LJ (remember Derby) and Scott was already scouted. He did lots of good but everyone has such rose tinted glasses about his time with us! Starting with this mythical £6m!

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said:

But the OP credited Pearson with generating £6m - I can’t see how this is correct-Semenyo got his break under LJ (remember Derby) and Scott was already scouted. He did lots of good but everyone has such rose tinted glasses about his time with us! Starting with this mythical £6m!

A poor shape, setup or lack of platform..We had to generate that Profit (Semenyo) possibly even that window for FFP, maybe it would've happened anyway but as asset values can rise as well as fall, so can Player Valuations or form which can have an intrinsic impact on the valuation.

Just look at how Vyner, Knight,  Sykes have regressed or at least claimed a bit, possibly Pring too.

That may also impact upon their Valuation.

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Dullmoan Tone said:

But the OP credited Pearson with generating £6m - I can’t see how this is correct-Semenyo got his break under LJ (remember Derby) and Scott was already scouted. He did lots of good but everyone has such rose tinted glasses about his time with us! Starting with this mythical £6m!

It’s not about who gives a player a debut / his first break.  Where’s George Dowling (LJ) or Louis Britton (NP) if so, it’s about who develops them, creates their value, makes them a better player that attracts suitors.

Re Semenyo, he got his break under LJ and then sent him on loan to Lg1 Sunderland.  What development was there or value made in those few games when he came back from Newport.  I’d argue Holden gave him his break not LJ, Deano started the Championship development, and Nige grew him.

You seem to want to find any angle to diminish what Nige did here.  Why is that?