slartibartfast Posted Tuesday at 08:59 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:59 Haven't seen anyone really mention him. What do we recon about his first two games ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38MC Posted Tuesday at 09:04 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:04 Really quite poor so far I would say, but it's very early days in a specialist position where it usually does take some time to settle in and get used to the set up and organisation. Not writing him off by any means as he's clearly got the attributes we just need to see how he settles. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDarwall Posted Tuesday at 09:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:06 If I was the oppo manager I'd tell my forwards to put lots of pressure on Vyner so he gives an easy ball to McNally. Don't think his passing is as good as Zaks & not in same ballpark as Dickie (who is exceptional). Think defensively he looks solid of unspectacular but not someone to build the play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted Tuesday at 09:34 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:34 Looked a bit shaky in his first couple of games to me, but that is only to be expected until he settles in and gets used to his team mates, attributes and style of play. Vyner and Dickie are our best centrebacks as things stand. I would like to see a bit more physicality from him TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted Tuesday at 09:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:41 I hardly noticed him tbh - whether that positive or negative I can’t say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted Tuesday at 09:46 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:46 (edited) Second half Saturday was a bit better, but I think generally it shows how easy Dickie has made "playing on the wrong side" look. His nervousness seems to have affected others too. The 3rd goal against Blackburn was the most glaring example, he clearly had no idea of where he was in relation to the goal and he was left all at sea. It was good to see him venture forward and get a cross in on Saturday, Twine nearly got on it too. Edited Tuesday at 09:56 by Port Said Red 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted Tuesday at 09:48 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:48 First game, poor. Saturday - I watched the whole 90 back last night, he was pretty solid. Made one fantastic tackle in the box second half. Distribution was fine, albeit simple, which is ok by me. imho (he is different to Dickie and Naismith, we should expect different types of game style) 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted Tuesday at 10:09 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:09 1 hour ago, slartibartfast said: Haven't seen anyone really mention him. What do we recon about his first two games ? I'm not sure he's an upgrade on Naismith. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east sussex red Posted Tuesday at 10:10 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:10 (edited) He's 6'4" so should command things in the air. Trouble is often the tall ones are not so good on the floor. Edited Tuesday at 10:10 by east sussex red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted Tuesday at 10:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:25 It took Dickie a while to settle in and show us all of his attributes so we should allow McNally some rope for the next few matches. One should also remember that it will take the other members of the squad to get used to him and what he will do in possession of the ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted Tuesday at 10:49 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:49 Tbh I thought he was pretty bang average Saturday. Tendency to want to look for touch rather than play out which surprised me in view of how we want to play. In the same way though as I’m not saying Yu is the second coming of Pele based on Saturday, I’m not saying McNally is the second coming of Dave Partridge and will judge in a few more games. Fantastic neck though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartleysbeard Posted Tuesday at 10:50 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:50 He didn’t look comfortable/confident to me. Didn’t look to command the ball or want to take responsibility; always playing it off within 1-2 seconds, even when he had time. On watching back the highlights, he did play a couple of nice balls into midfield that broke the lines and got us moving forward. Funnily enough, his best contribution was almost creating a scoring opportunity having broken forward! For himself lost for the open goal chance that Oxford spurned. I hope his confidence grows and he starts to take more control in games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted Tuesday at 11:14 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:14 He’s a defend first centre half which is rare these days. A couple of times in the second half when a ball forward from Oxford could have been controlled & played back to max , but without him being sure who was behind him , he rolled the ball out for a throw & allowed us to get our shape. Don’t mind that tbh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted Tuesday at 11:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:25 Thought he did much better Saturday. He was bloody unlucky for their goal. He's one I'm pleased we picked up, with out centre-half track record I knew we'd need a capable extra body to play there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted Tuesday at 11:35 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:35 I don’t think I’ve ever seen a defender pass the ball backwards as much as he did in the 1st half. Not even passes slightly infront of people to step onto. Several of the players were screaming at him to release it quicker and forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted Tuesday at 11:38 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 11:38 Cheers all . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted Tuesday at 12:07 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:07 Looks like someone who needs a run of games before he’s at his best to me. When we play better sides how he distributes the ball will become more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted Tuesday at 12:07 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:07 30 minutes ago, Henry said: I don’t think I’ve ever seen a defender pass the ball backwards as much as he did in the 1st half. Not even passes slightly infront of people to step onto. Several of the players were screaming at him to release it quicker and forward. Here’s his passing map: Top - all Middle - forward bottom - backwards Therefore 45 were lateral of which 43 were successful. If you think of the points of a compass, a lot falls into lateral, some that actually go forward, and some that go backwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted Tuesday at 15:50 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:50 Interesting how we all see different things! I thought his distribution was quite slow (but in a good way - calm and looking for the right ball rather than panicking). Also, largely forward/positive - often to Roberts but when central options were unavailable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted Tuesday at 16:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:36 I’ll give my opinion in about 3 months time, when he’s had chance to properly settle in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted Tuesday at 16:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:41 6 hours ago, Super said: I'm not sure he's an upgrade on Naismith. How can you tell Super? McNally has played once for City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted Tuesday at 16:43 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:43 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: How can you tell Super? McNally has played once for City. Twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Dolman Posted Tuesday at 16:44 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:44 1 minute ago, Robbored said: How can you tell Super? McNally has played once for City. He’s played twice, but I’d say it’s a bit early to form an opinion on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leabrook Posted Tuesday at 16:46 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:46 Judging anyone this early is pointless. A stoke fan work colleague likes him which is enough for me right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted Tuesday at 16:53 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:53 8 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Twice. I’ve only seen him once Graham - I’m not qualified to comment on away matches with only RB as coverage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted Tuesday at 17:26 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:26 32 minutes ago, Robbored said: I’ve only seen him once Graham - I’m not qualified to comment on away matches with only RB as coverage. Do appearances only count if you watch them? 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted Tuesday at 17:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:32 5 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Do appearances only count if you watch them? They do for strippers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted Tuesday at 19:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:00 8 hours ago, Super said: I'm not sure he's an upgrade on Naismith. Stronger in the air - which makes his lack of pace less of an issue. Imo. Which very important when the opposition look to break with us having more of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cyril 2 Posted Tuesday at 19:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:41 Has not set me alight with his abilities so far. Seems good in the air. McNally/Vyner not looking as secure as you would like. But he is newly in so takes time. Interesting when Atkinson fit who plays. I would take it Dickie straight back in when fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted Tuesday at 19:50 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:50 Not really impressed so far but isn’t fair to judge yet. Dickie is out for a while and on current showing he walks back in to the team. It’s up to McNally to keep him out, has the time to do it, question is does he have the ability. Think he looked better with Roberts next to him and when Williams went off. So hopefully we start Bird and Knight infront of him with Roberts at LB against Swansea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted Tuesday at 20:46 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:46 10 hours ago, cidered abroad said: It took Dickie a while to settle in and show us all of his attributes so we should allow McNally some rope for the next few matches. One should also remember that it will take the other members of the squad to get used to him and what he will do in possession of the ball. We miss Dickie so badly. Plus Big Rob. If fully fit those two must start. Zak isn’t on it this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgy Red Posted Tuesday at 21:08 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:08 Dickie was Nige's best signing by a long way... we really miss him when he's not in the team. I know its been mentioned before but he's a bit like Webster (without the marauding runs). Both are strong in the air and very good with the ball at their feet. For the fee we paid QPR, he really was a top drawer signing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted Tuesday at 21:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:25 11 hours ago, Super said: I'm not sure he's an upgrade on Naismith. If he's as good as Naismith that's ok with me, considering Naismiths injury record we need backup as good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted Tuesday at 21:31 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:31 21 minutes ago, Edgy Red said: Dickie was Nige's best signing by a long way... we really miss him when he's not in the team. I know its been mentioned before but he's a bit like Webster (without the marauding runs). Both are strong in the air and very good with the ball at their feet. For the fee we paid QPR, he really was a top drawer signing Actually value for money, Tanner from Carlisle for £300 k was Nige’s best signing, although I wouldn’t argue about Dickie being a steal as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgy Red Posted Tuesday at 21:47 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:47 12 minutes ago, Malago said: Actually value for money, Tanner from Carlisle for £300 k was Nige’s best signing, although I wouldn’t argue about Dickie being a steal as well. Tanner has improved over the last 4 seasons but Dickie gave an instant impact when he was signed. I like Tanner but he's got nowhere near Dickie's ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted Tuesday at 22:15 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:15 24 minutes ago, Edgy Red said: Tanner has improved over the last 4 seasons but Dickie gave an instant impact when he was signed. I like Tanner but he's got nowhere near Dickie's ability. Wow! I haven’t checked, not that I doubt you, but has George Tanner really been here for four seasons already? I am truly surprised. As many have said, he has proved to be a very astute signing, and I hope his contract has been extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted Tuesday at 22:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:21 31 minutes ago, Edgy Red said: Tanner has improved over the last 4 seasons but Dickie gave an instant impact when he was signed. I like Tanner but he's got nowhere near Dickie's ability. We payed 4 times as much for Dickie as we did for Tanner. Yes, Dickie is a better player, but not 4 times as good. Hence, my opinion that Tanner was a better value for money signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted Wednesday at 08:22 Share Posted Wednesday at 08:22 15 hours ago, Robbored said: How can you tell Super? McNally has played once for City. Why i said i'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted Wednesday at 08:33 Share Posted Wednesday at 08:33 10 hours ago, Edgy Red said: Tanner has improved over the last 4 seasons but Dickie gave an instant impact when he was signed. I like Tanner but he's got nowhere near Dickie's ability. I love Dickie, but I will dispute that slightly... When he first signed he looked like he had carried over his QPR jitters a little and resulted in that silly red card (can't remember who against, Birmingham maybe?) It wasn't until he was reintroduced to the team after a few games dropped where he really showed just how good he was and kept getting better from there. He now looks equally comfortable on the left than he did the right (which wouldn't have helped initial confidence) and is by far our best Centre Back. I know I'm in the minority but I've never been sold on Vyner and often feels he gets judged on his improvement rather than his actual ability. For me, when Dickie's fit I wouldn't be surprised if it's Vyner who eventually makes way and not Mcnally. WIth regards to Saturday, thought he got better as the game went on and seemed to grow into it a lot more, just turned 25 so a really high ceiling and may end up being a shrewd signing. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted Wednesday at 11:05 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:05 12 hours ago, Malago said: We payed 4 times as much for Dickie as we did for Tanner. Yes, Dickie is a better player, but not 4 times as good. Hence, my opinion that Tanner was a better value for money signing. Tanner £300k, Dickie £600k FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted Wednesday at 11:10 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:10 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Tanner £300k, Dickie £600k FWIW. How do you know that? Tanners was publicised but I’m sure Dickies was undisclosed and I can’t think anyone would have been unprofessional enough to blurt it out on a local radio station or similar. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted Wednesday at 11:32 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:32 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Tanner £300k, Dickie £600k FWIW. Fairly sure in his guest appearance on RTV last Saturday, it was mentioned his fee was £1.2 million. Edited Wednesday at 11:37 by Malago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted Wednesday at 11:36 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:36 4 minutes ago, Malago said: Fairly sure in his guest appearance on RTV last Saturday, Dickie said his fee was £1.2 million. Thats a lot for doing commentary on the in house TV channel. It’s no wonder we’ve been pushing up against FFP limits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted Wednesday at 11:38 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:38 1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said: Thats a lot for doing commentary on the in house TV channel. It’s no wonder we’ve been pushing up against FFP limits. Very droll. Don't give up the day job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnr1986 Posted Wednesday at 11:48 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:48 Think McNally will turn out to be a good signing, Burnley payed decent money for him , played a lot of games for Coventry the season they got to playoff final and we beat a couple of other championship clubs to get him here. Personally have more confidence in him in a two than Naismith. Dickie Vyner, McNally & Atkinson is decent set of CB at this level only concern would be take Vyner out and the rest aren’t the most mobile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted Wednesday at 12:12 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:12 39 minutes ago, Malago said: Fairly sure in his guest appearance on RTV last Saturday, it was mentioned his fee was £1.2 million. Mentioned by him or the presenter? Tinnion said it was £600k in an interview. Talk at time of signing was £700k plus £500k add-ons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted Wednesday at 12:17 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:17 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Mentioned by him or the presenter? Tinnion said it was £600k in an interview. Talk at time of signing was £700k plus £500k add-ons. By the presenter to which Dickie nodded iirc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted Wednesday at 13:17 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:17 1 hour ago, Johnr1986 said: Think McNally will turn out to be a good signing, Burnley payed decent money for him , played a lot of games for Coventry the season they got to playoff final and we beat a couple of other championship clubs to get him here. Personally have more confidence in him in a two than Naismith. Dickie Vyner, McNally & Atkinson is decent set of CB at this level only concern would be take Vyner out and the rest aren’t the most mobile. I seem to remember an interview with Nige when he said Rob Atkinson was one of the quickest players at the club, but you’re right about Dickie, McNally and indeed Naismith, not being the quickest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cyril 2 Posted Wednesday at 20:01 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:01 8 hours ago, Johnr1986 said: Think McNally will turn out to be a good signing, Burnley payed decent money for him , played a lot of games for Coventry the season they got to playoff final and we beat a couple of other championship clubs to get him here. Personally have more confidence in him in a two than Naismith. Dickie Vyner, McNally & Atkinson is decent set of CB at this level only concern would be take Vyner out and the rest aren’t the most mobile. Wonder if we be moving Nasmith on in next window? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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