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Really quite poor so far I would say, but it's very early days in a specialist position where it usually does take some time to settle in and get used to the set up and organisation. Not writing him off by any means as he's clearly got the attributes we just need to see how he settles. 

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If I was the oppo manager I'd tell my forwards to put lots of pressure on Vyner so he gives an easy ball to McNally. Don't think his passing is as good as Zaks & not in same ballpark as Dickie (who is exceptional).

Think defensively he looks solid of unspectacular but not someone to build the play.

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Second half Saturday was a bit better, but I think generally it shows how easy Dickie has made "playing on the wrong side" look.

His nervousness seems to have affected others too. 

The 3rd goal against Blackburn was the most glaring example, he clearly had no idea of where he was in relation to the goal and he was left all at sea.

It was good to see him venture forward and get a cross in on Saturday, Twine nearly got on it too.

 

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First game, poor.

Saturday - I watched the whole 90 back last night, he was pretty solid.  Made one fantastic tackle in the box second half.  Distribution was fine, albeit simple, which is ok by me.

imho

(he is different to Dickie and Naismith, we should expect different types of game style)

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Tbh I thought he was pretty bang average Saturday. Tendency to want to look for touch rather than play out which surprised me in view of how we want to play.

In the same way though as I’m not saying Yu is the second coming of Pele based on Saturday, I’m not saying McNally is the second coming of Dave Partridge and will judge in a few more games.

Fantastic neck though.

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He didn’t look comfortable/confident to me. Didn’t look to command the ball or want to take responsibility; always playing it off within 1-2 seconds, even when he had time. On watching back the highlights, he did play a couple of nice balls into midfield that broke the lines and got us moving forward. Funnily enough, his best contribution was almost creating a scoring opportunity having broken forward! For himself lost for the open goal chance that Oxford spurned. 

I hope his confidence grows and he starts to take more control in games. 

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He’s a defend first centre half which is rare these days. A couple of times in the second half when a ball forward from Oxford could have been controlled & played back to max , but without him being sure who was behind him , he rolled the ball out for a throw & allowed us to get our shape. Don’t mind that tbh 

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30 minutes ago, Henry said:

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a defender pass the ball backwards as much as he did in the 1st half. Not even passes slightly infront of people to step onto.

Several of the players were screaming at him to release it quicker and forward.

Here’s his passing map:

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Top - all

Middle - forward

bottom - backwards

Therefore 45 were lateral of which 43 were successful.

If you think of the points of a compass, a lot falls into lateral, some that actually go forward, and some that go backwards.

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Interesting how we all see different things! I thought his distribution was quite slow (but in a good way - calm and looking for the right ball rather than panicking). Also, largely forward/positive - often to Roberts but when central options were unavailable.

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8 hours ago, Super said:

I'm not sure he's an upgrade on Naismith.

Stronger in the air - which makes his lack of pace less of an issue. Imo.

Which very important when the opposition look to break with us having more of the ball.

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Not really impressed so far but isn’t fair to judge yet. Dickie is out for a while and on current showing he walks back in to the team. It’s up to McNally to keep him out, has the time to do it, question is does he have the ability. Think he looked better with Roberts next to him and when Williams went off. So hopefully we start Bird and Knight infront of him with Roberts at LB against Swansea. 

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10 hours ago, cidered abroad said:

It took Dickie a while to settle in and show us all of his attributes so we should allow McNally some rope for the next few matches.

One should also remember that it will take the other members of the squad to get used to him and what he will do in possession of the ball.

We miss Dickie so badly. Plus Big Rob. If fully fit those two must start. Zak isn’t on it this season 

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Dickie was Nige's best signing by a long way... we really miss him when he's not in the team.

I know its been mentioned before but he's a bit like Webster (without the marauding runs). Both are strong in the air and very good with the ball at their feet.

For the fee we paid QPR, he really was a top drawer signing

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21 minutes ago, Edgy Red said:

Dickie was Nige's best signing by a long way... we really miss him when he's not in the team.

I know its been mentioned before but he's a bit like Webster (without the marauding runs). Both are strong in the air and very good with the ball at their feet.

For the fee we paid QPR, he really was a top drawer signing

Actually value for money, Tanner from Carlisle for £300 k was Nige’s best signing, although I wouldn’t argue about Dickie being a steal as well.

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12 minutes ago, Malago said:

Actually value for money, Tanner from Carlisle for £300 k was Nige’s best signing, although I wouldn’t argue about Dickie being a steal as well.

Tanner has improved over the last 4 seasons but Dickie gave an instant impact when he was signed.

I like Tanner but he's got nowhere near Dickie's ability.

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24 minutes ago, Edgy Red said:

Tanner has improved over the last 4 seasons but Dickie gave an instant impact when he was signed.

I like Tanner but he's got nowhere near Dickie's ability.

Wow!

I haven’t checked, not that I doubt you, but has George Tanner really been here for four seasons already?

I am truly surprised.

As many have said, he has proved to be a very astute signing, and I hope his contract has been extended.

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31 minutes ago, Edgy Red said:

Tanner has improved over the last 4 seasons but Dickie gave an instant impact when he was signed.

I like Tanner but he's got nowhere near Dickie's ability.

We payed 4 times as much for Dickie as we did for Tanner.  Yes, Dickie is a better player, but not 4 times as good.  Hence, my opinion that Tanner was a better value for money signing.

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10 hours ago, Edgy Red said:

Tanner has improved over the last 4 seasons but Dickie gave an instant impact when he was signed.

I like Tanner but he's got nowhere near Dickie's ability.

I love Dickie, but I will dispute that slightly...

When he first signed he looked like he had carried over his QPR jitters a little and resulted in that silly red card (can't remember who against, Birmingham maybe?)

It wasn't until he was reintroduced to the team after a few games dropped where he really showed just how good he was and kept getting better from there. He now looks equally comfortable on the left than he did the right (which wouldn't have helped initial confidence) and is by far our best Centre Back.

I know I'm in the minority but I've never been sold on Vyner and often feels he gets judged on his improvement rather than his actual ability. For me, when Dickie's fit I wouldn't be surprised if it's Vyner who eventually makes way and not Mcnally.

WIth regards to Saturday, thought he got better as the game went on and seemed to grow into it a lot more, just turned 25 so a really high ceiling and may end up being a shrewd signing.

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Think McNally will turn out to be a good signing, Burnley payed decent money for him , played a lot of games for Coventry the season they got to playoff final and we beat a couple of other championship clubs to get him here. Personally have more confidence in him in a two than Naismith.                    Dickie Vyner, McNally & Atkinson is decent set of CB at this level only concern would be take Vyner out and the rest aren’t the most mobile.

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39 minutes ago, Malago said:

Fairly sure in his guest appearance on RTV last Saturday, it was mentioned his fee was £1.2 million.

Mentioned by him or the presenter?

Tinnion said it was £600k in an interview.

Talk at time of signing was £700k plus £500k add-ons.

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1 hour ago, Johnr1986 said:

Think McNally will turn out to be a good signing, Burnley payed decent money for him , played a lot of games for Coventry the season they got to playoff final and we beat a couple of other championship clubs to get him here. Personally have more confidence in him in a two than Naismith.                    Dickie Vyner, McNally & Atkinson is decent set of CB at this level only concern would be take Vyner out and the rest aren’t the most mobile.

I seem to remember an interview with Nige when he said Rob Atkinson was one of the quickest players at the club, but you’re right about Dickie, McNally and indeed Naismith, not being the quickest.

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8 hours ago, Johnr1986 said:

Think McNally will turn out to be a good signing, Burnley payed decent money for him , played a lot of games for Coventry the season they got to playoff final and we beat a couple of other championship clubs to get him here. Personally have more confidence in him in a two than Naismith.                    Dickie Vyner, McNally & Atkinson is decent set of CB at this level only concern would be take Vyner out and the rest aren’t the most mobile.

Wonder if we be moving Nasmith on in next window?

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