Chivs Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I think for once the forum is almost unanimous in respecting Tinman for his 500th appearance. Even some BRFC fans gave their grudging respect. However, how rare is this? Who and when was the last player to play 500 times for the same club? My feeling is that this is very unusual and as such Tinman should be getting national coverage. I know he got onto FiveLive but it was only a brief interview. I wonder who will be the next player to get 500 appearances for their club. Giggs must have a few games under his belt? With the ever mercenary attitude to football this landmark could well be a last for us and many other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pogue mahone Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 tony adams was possibly the last one. although i wouldn't get too excited by the likes of him and giggs making 500 + for their resepective clubs. it must be fairly easy to stay loyal when you are playing for one of the top 2 clubs in the country. and i do sometimes wonder how long we would have kept brian if he had a bit of pace and a right foot. edit: poor english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Eater Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I think this makes tins something like 5th on the all time appearence list. Only another 4 or 5 appearances to overtake the person above. I will await the reply form the gurus listing all of the top appearances. I think we all know that Ayteo was top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave L Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 tony adams, possibly. although i wouldn't get too excited by the likes of him and giggs making 500 + for their resepective clubs. Giggs has played 514 games for Man Utd with a fair few more to come I imagine. I'm hard pushed to think of another current player who can match him or Tins for appearances for the same club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted January 12, 2004 Author Share Posted January 12, 2004 Giggs has played 514 games for Man Utd with a fair few more to come I imagine. I'm hard pushed to think of another current player who can match him or Tins for appearances for the same club. I think that a player has to have had at least 10, (mostly) injury free, constantly selected, years of playing at the same club. This averages out at 50 games per calendar year which is not bad considering the summer months. There can't be many players who fit the bill though no doubt some statto will point me at a website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave L Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 no doubt some statto will point me at a website www.soccerbase.com cheers Some Statto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CiderRedMatt Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Question is, with the financial situation at lower league clubs at the moment, is there ever going to be another footballer topping 500+ in Div 1/2/3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc seattle Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Looking at our team the only person I could see having a chance would be Docs. Even though he's only around 170 now. Young, should be able to play at next level. Has already resigned once here when he had options to leave for free. etc. etc. I guess Philips might have a chance if he became a bit more consitant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CiderRedMatt Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Carey could do it - got a few years left, isn't he on something like the 300 mark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc seattle Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Carey could do it - got a few years left, isn't he on something like the 300 mark? 345 is carey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Well done Dave you have just made most of the regulars on here footie anoraks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I think for once the forum is almost unanimous in respecting Tinman for his 500th appearance. Even some BRFC fans gave their grudging respect. However, how rare is this? Who and when was the last player to play 500 times for the same club? My feeling is that this is very unusual and as such Tinman should be getting national coverage. I know he got onto FiveLive but it was only a brief interview. I wonder who will be the next player to get 500 appearances for their club. Giggs must have a few games under his belt? With the ever mercenary attitude to football this landmark could well be a last for us and many other clubs. for 1 club it is rare but just a few i can think of.. Alex Stepney played 535 games for man united Alan Oakes played 668 games for Manchester City Bert Trautmann 500 League appearances for Manchester City W.A.FOULKES (1952-69) played 566 games for man united bobby charlton played 606 games for man united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcityup Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Can he make it to 1000! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Can he make it to 1000! don't know? if he became manager and picked himself mabe but big John Atyeo holds the city record John Atyeo:League appearances 597 1951/66 scoring 314 League goals only another 98 games tinns to beat big john that is about 2 seasons? could be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I thought Rob Newman made 500 appearances for City? I seem to recollect he started from the youth team when we went bust, and carried on through? Maybe the Cider Gliders can enlighten me, maybe my braincell went AWOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted January 13, 2004 Author Share Posted January 13, 2004 for 1 club it is rare but just a few i can think of.. Alex Stepney played 535 games for man united Alan Oakes played 668 games for Manchester City Bert Trautmann 500 League appearances for Manchester City W.A.FOULKES (1952-69) played 566 games for man united bobby charlton played 606 games for man united But you're comparing with a different era. My last comment was meant to suggest that this is an ever rarer achievement in today's context. Despite Statto's (aka DaveL) best help, I'm unable to track down which current players are getting near to the 500 mark. However, I can tell you that David Seaman played 566 times (all competitions) for Arsenal and he never scored a goal! (Thanks DaveL, you shan't be forgiven ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave L Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Sorry to prolong your agony Chivs, but the all time table of appearances by players for one club can be found at http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bob.dunning/club.htm. And very interesting reading it makes too. The record for most league games for a variety of different sides is held by Peter Shilton, who played over 1000 league games in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BTR_FTG Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Having given the matter some thought, aided & abetted by Arthur Guinness & son, I believe the answer to the question 'which player in the modern era will next pass the 500 mark with one club' could well be Kevin Pressman at Sheff Wed. He's been there forever & can't recall him ever being transferred or going out on loan that often. BTR FTG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompo Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 It is interesting to note that the majority of long serving players are Goal Keepers. Presumably this is to do with the fact that they can carry on playing to a greater age than their outfield counterparts. Having said that Stuart McCall who is now 39, has just signed a two year extension to his contract at Sheffield Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 345 is carey 345 thats pretty good considering he was nowhere a regular earlier in his career. He is much maligned in some quarters, but I think he gets through some excellent work especially "on the cover". Is it a case of familiarity breeding contempt? Working on the 50 game average mentioned earlier, he could be approaching 800 games when he reaches Tinmans age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted January 13, 2004 Admin Share Posted January 13, 2004 According to today's Sun, Giggs has 571 appearances for ManU under his belt. Gary Neville & Paul Scholes should make the 500 barrier with 419 & 394 appearances respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I thought Rob Newman made 500 appearances for City? I seem to recollect he started from the youth team when we went bust, and carried on through? Maybe the Cider Gliders can enlighten me, maybe my braincell went AWOL! rob newman played 394 times for bristol city http://www.ex-canaries.co.uk/players/newman.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 But you're comparing with a different era. My last comment was meant to suggest that this is an ever rarer achievement in today's context. yeah fair point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 a mix of old and new.... 1 770 John Trollope Swindon Town 1960-80 2 764 Jimmy Dickinson Portsmouth 1946-65 3 761 Roy Sproson Port Vale 1950-72 4 713 Terry Paine Southampton 1956-74 5 663 Billy Bonds West Ham United 1967-88 6= 655 Ron Harris Chelsea 1962-80 6= 655 Steve Perryman Tottenham Hotspur 1969-86 8 640 Ian Callaghan Liverpool 1960-78 9= 629 Jack Charlton Leeds United 1953-73 9= 629 Joe Shaw Sheffield United 1948-66 11. 614 Bob McKinley Nottingham Forest 1951-70 12= 613 Dave Blakey Chesterfield 1948-67 12= 613 Mickey Cook Colchester United 1969-84 14 606 Bobby Charlton Manchester United 1956-73 15 597 John Ateyeo Bristol City 1951-66 16 596 Derek Fazackerley Blackburn Rovers 1970-86 17= 595 Harold Bell Tranmere Rovers 1946-64 17= 595 Jack Brownsword Scunthorpe United 1950-65 19 594 Johnny Haynes Fulham 1952-70 20= 592 Ron Ashman Norwich City 1947-64 20= 592 Arfon Griffiths Wrexham 1959-61,62-79 22 591 Mick Mills Ipswich Town 1966-82 23 585 Wilfred Milne Swansea City 1919-37 24 579 Sam Bartram Charlton Athletic 1934-56 25 578 Neville Southall Everton 1981-98 26 574 Tony Brown West Bromwich Albion 1963-80 27= 571 Jim Cannon Crystal Palace 1973-88 27= 571 John Simpson Gillingham 1957-72 29 568 Jimmy Armfield Blackpool 1952-71 30 565 Alan Oakes Manchester City 1959-76 31 564 Albert Ironmonger Notts County 1904-26 32 563 Tim Williamson Middlesbrough 1902-23 33 561 Charlie Aitken Aston Villa 1961-76 34 558 David O'Leary Arsenal 1975-93 35 546 Stuart Taylor Bristol Rovers 1966-80 36 537 Jim Montgomery Sunderland 1962-77 37 532 528 Adam Black Leicester City 1920-35 38 530 Kevin Hodges Plymouth Argyle 1978-92 39 528 John McDermott Grimsby Town 1987- 2003 40 525 Ian Wood Oldham Athletic 1966-80 41 523 Barry Kitchener Millwall 1967-82 42 522 Jerry Dawson Burnley 1907-28 43 521 Tommy Fowler Northampton Town 1946-61 44= 520 Andy Davidson Hull City 1952-67 44= 520 Billy Smith Huddersfield Town 1914-34 46= 519 Eddie Hopkinson Bolton Wanderers 1956-70 46= 519 Tony Ingham Queen's Park Rangers 1950-63 48= 514 Ken Coote Brentford 1949-64 48= 514 Barry Murphy Barnsley 1962-78 50 509 'Tug' Wilson Brighton and Hove Albion 1922-36 51= 507 Steve Ogrizovic Coventry City 1984-2000 51= 507 Eric Skeels Stoke City * 1958-76 53 506 Norman Bullock Bury 1920-35 54= 502 Cec Podd Bradford City 1970-84 54= 502 Andy Wilson Sheffield Wednesday 1900-20 56 501 Derek Parkin Wolverhampton Wanderers 1967-82 57 500 Martin Hicks Reading 1978-91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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