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MATT BCFC

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I think this shows the board don't have the same kind of ambition as the fans here. This is something like the 4th or 5th season ina row we have sold our top scorer.

The stupid thing is aswell its probably only 800k with Leroy in the team will will get more than that by getting promoted doh.gif

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Whats the point of keeping a player who clearly wants to go just as all the others did.

The reality is that City are a small club and make a huge loss every year.Its unavoidable that the club have to sell players at a profit whenever they can.

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Whats the point of keeping a player who clearly wants to go  just as all the others did.

The reality is that City are a small club and make a huge loss every year.Its unavoidable that the club have to sell players at a profit whenever they can.

Absolutely Alan. We are a selling club, whether we like it or not.

They only way to keep players of leroy's standard is to attain promotion to The Championship.

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Have you actually considered that your club did everything possible to keep him and that Lita just wanted to move on? If the player didn't want to sign his new deal what do you think the board should do? Once that has happened and there is an interested party they have got to negotiate the best deal for your club otherwise he leaves for nothing. You can't take the gamble of we might go up this year because seriously how long have you been saying that?

You either take the offer now which I bet is a good offer of near or equal to seven figures or you get nothing next season like Wigan will get with Ellington!

This is more than likely not your boards fault and just Lita wanting to play at a higher level and who can blame him. I would say exactly the same if we sold Sidwell for a fair price to a Premiership club. i would be disappointed that he is leaving but wish him well and understand his decision (thankfully it's not happening!).

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The reality is that City are a small club

Yes, and getting smaller as the present directors set a course for oblivion with failed plans and lack of capital to do much more than stave of the inevitable.

The chairmans priority should be to find a buyer for this football club because the more we seem to struggl the more we seem to slip into the quicksand.

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I h8 SL what a idiot like a close freind of Tommy Doc sed "He loves City didnt want to go but they lack AMBITION"the words out of Docs mouth! LANSDOWN OUT!!!

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Whats the point of keeping a player who clearly wants to go  just as all the others did.

The reality is that City are a small club and make a huge loss every year.Its unavoidable that the club have to sell players at a profit whenever they can.

What a total load of B0110X.

With a little ambition & drive this club should be a pernament fixture in the Championship & pushing for Premiership.

44,000 fans take a trip to Cardiff, the potential at Ashton Gate is huge.

Fans have the deisre.

Does it lie elsewhere?

Just look at some of the teams - Preston,Reading,Stoke,Ipswich,Norwich etc etc etc etc etc etc.

City are a small club - GET REAL

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Whats the point of keeping a player who clearly wants to go  just as all the others did.

The reality is that City are a small club and make a huge loss every year.Its unavoidable that the club have to sell players at a profit whenever they can.

yep, and thats a fantastic attitude to have, Loads of clubs that think this way gain promotion don't they?

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My immediate reaction at the news was one of real disappointment and frustration at the City board for once again selling the player most capable of getting us promoted. However I will reserve judgement until I hear a statement from the board and player.

If their hands were completely tied, then we have to be realistic. However if we are just cashing in then it is short sightedness, as promotion would net us more than the Lita money.

Big shame and why on earth did we sell Heffernan?

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What a total load of B0110X.

With a little ambition & drive this club should be a pernament fixture in the Championship & pushing for Premiership.

44,000 fans take a trip to Cardiff, the potential at Ashton Gate is huge.

Fans have the deisre.

Does it lie elsewhere?

Just look at some of the teams - Preston,Reading,Stoke,Ipswich,Norwich etc etc etc etc etc etc.

City are a small club - GET REAL

Flipping heck RichieB.......... it's not like you to rant ohmy.gifbiggrin.gif

The thought of our club being able to retain anyone who shows some flair and is worth the punt....... is still beyond us though, at present sad.gif ????

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What a total load of B0110X.

With a little ambition & drive this club should be a pernament fixture in the Championship & pushing for Premiership.

44,000 fans take a trip to Cardiff, the potential at Ashton Gate is huge.

Fans have the deisre.

Does it lie elsewhere?

Just look at some of the teams - Preston,Reading,Stoke,Ipswich,Norwich etc etc etc etc etc etc.

City are a small club - GET REAL

I don't understand your post? Do you mean to say that because you took 44,000 'fans' probably 20,000 of them have never seen Bristol City before to a ground about 15 miles away those other clubs wouldn't? Reading took 33,000 to Wembley in 95 and our full allocation of around 40,000 to Cardiff in 2001 and around 40,000 to Wembley for the Simod Cup in 1988. Reading's average attendance last season was over 17,000 with 7 crowds of 20,000+. Our club is a growing, ambitious club and when you consider we have no real history we are doing alright.

Only Preston on that list you have put up i would consider 'probably' to be smaller than Bristol City. The difference is they are in the Championship and you are not. If you got there then you would definitely be on a par with Preston, Stoke, and ourselves.

Not just about ambition, you have to have a good manager able to motivate players and pick up good players at the right time. We signed Nicky Shorey from Leyton Orient for £25,000, Adie Viveash on a free transfer and a certain Jamie Cureton for £250,000. 3 of the main reasons we got promoted when we did. Wasn't down to ambition but good management.

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Flipping heck RichieB.......... it's not like you to rant  ohmy.gif  biggrin.gif

The thought of our club being able to retain anyone who shows some flair and is worth the punt....... is still beyond us though, at present sad.gif  ????

DC, it must be the weather !!

I am totally p1$$ed off with certain fans being content with lower division footy.

Yes, I know where we are & I know that players have certain price tags.

But all I see are teams that should be trailing in our wake, take on our players.

We all remember Reading, Stoke etc - in the same divisions, with old grounds.

Now teams like Wigan Plymouth etc etc - push on with new grounds & restructured grounds.

We struggle to hold onto key players,we appoint managers that no other teams would think about & we stall on any new ground development.

And all with the envy that we have 4 Directors who are in the Soccer rich-list.

Now tell me - where has it gone wrong ????

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It's pointless using the argument of LITA being out of contract next year therefore he had to be sold in defending the board.

The simple truth is a promising player like him should have been given a longer contract ( three years would have been ideal) in the first place!!!

We will have the same problem with COTTERILL and SKUSE and have just lost anyinsah the same way!! We could also have lost HILL for nothing if he hadn't done the decent thing and signed a years contract when he was free to leave!!

If we are going to spend large amounts on an academy then the assets need to be protected!!

If the coaching staff cant identify the genuine good prospects then they are in the wrong job!!

No one could have predicted what a great season LITA would have last year but we could all recognise the raw talent he had... A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WAS SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH.........unless of course certain people don't mind cashing in every year!!!!

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Whats the point of keeping a player who clearly wants to go  just as all the others did.

The reality is that City are a small club and make a huge loss every year.Its unavoidable that the club have to sell players at a profit whenever they can.

Only partly agree, I'm afraid.

If he wants to go, then absolutely, he should go. However, I'm not convinced he does. Lets wait and see what he says and what (under the influence of his puffed up arrogant agent) he does.

Dead right on the second point though. While we are in this poxy division, we are a small club and the board had to take a judgement - on the basis of one good season and with Cotterill, Stewart, Brooker, Gillespie and Murray, do we have enough back up to be able to 'risk' losing out on around £750K? With a heavy heart, I'd say yes we do.

Thanks Leroy, see you in 2006-07

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If we were in your position we would have much more than that

All ifs and buts. When we were in the same league as you our attendances were higher than yours.

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I am totally p1$$ed off with certain fans being content with lower division footy.

Come on Richie, I know you're annoyed. We all are. But no-one is content in this league.

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it's crap supporting a team without ambition! lets sell all r young decent players who's next Cotterill? Golbourne? ranting.gif

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The board lack Ambition!!

That was some thing you never heard from leeds fans

when Risdale was in charge

Or a few years ago from Cardiff fans when old sammy took over

Give our board a break

There is ambition & stupidity.

The boards 'loans' have kept this club afloat.

But being rich individuals & each having good business heads, you would have thought that they would have known better with certain appts made.

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Come on Richie, I know you're annoyed. We all are. But no-one is content in this league.

You wouldn't think it with some posters opinions.

The key is 'We ARE' a selling club - when we should be saying 'WHY are we' a selling club.

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Not in the 1999-2000 season you didnt

But in 2000/2001 and 2001/2002 we did. razz.gif

Pointless arguement though mate. Get there first and beat it and I will pass you the 'big club' torch. laugh.gif

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It's pointless using the argument of LITA being out of contract next year therefore he had to be sold in defending the board.

The simple truth is a promising player like him should have been given a longer contract ( three years would have been ideal) in the first place!!!

We will have the same problem with COTTERILL and SKUSE and have just lost anyinsah the same way!! We could also have lost HILL for nothing if he hadn't done the decent thing and signed a years contract when he was free to leave!!

If we are going to spend large amounts on an academy then the assets need to be protected!!

If the coaching staff cant identify the genuine good prospects then they are in the wrong job!!

No one could have predicted what a great season LITA would have last year but we could all recognise the raw talent he had... A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WAS SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH.........unless of course certain people don't mind cashing in every year!!!!

Easy mate, you're making far too much sense.

Good point well made. The board have to take the rap for this, it's not about making the most of a saleable asset, we've had to REACT to essentially predatory bids, fuelled by a greedy agent.

When will we be pro-actively securing the services of players who matter.

We're letting too many assets slip through the net.

Brown(we should have sold him, not let him go) Roseineor (made to look silly with the excuse of a contract in the post) Doherty (mis managed a good player until we had to let him go for peanuts...oh sorry 'UNDISCLOSED') Ayinsah (grrrrr)

it's up to the manager and the board to control the situation with players contracts, it means understanding, listening and getting players to want to stay. or at least getting them on board in order to sign them.

Man mismanagement is becoming all too familiar down the gate.

Take Wilkshire, openly slagged (by Lansdown messed about by Tinnion) Woodman (slagged off by Tinnion) Coles (Slagged by Tinnion)

The Butler fiasco...etc etc etc

oh brother! when I look back at the last 16 months I despair!

and whilst I'll get over it, right now I think this board need to be held to account.

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Why ? As I thought he owed BT a lot for giving him his big chance?

Who knows whats swayed his mind - Championship Football and £5-10k a week no doubt played a factor.

Loyality in football long is nothing more than a myth these days.

Sad day for BCFC today sad.gif

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Why ? As I thought he owed BT a lot for giving him his big chance?

Well what is it they say ...... words are cheap so the odd complement costs nothing?

Yes we might see it as lip service but as you have made the point the point is the ambition of this club or to be precise the ambition of the Management of this club?

The LL's of this world will come and pass through this fine club of ours how do we stop this and retain the players that we need to be serious about going up and staying up.

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Well what is it they say ...... words are cheap so the odd complement costs nothing?

Yes we might see it as lip service but as you have made the point the point is the ambition of this club or to be precise the ambition of the Management of this club?

The LL's of this world will come and pass through this fine club of ours how do we stop this and retain the players that we need to be serious about going up and staying up.

But LL has a good rappour with BT ?

Signing MS, was to show ambition that this season we could get out of this division.

LL was offered a new deal by Board, but was this shown to be ambitious enough to see us into Championship next season or was the new deal based on 1st div package. dunno.gif

We are seriously losing the cream of our young talent.

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Ummm... if they've got around million for Lita plus a sell-on that's a decent deal given the circumstances - if most of the money is reinvested in the Team. I hope the spin about the size of our debt was to soften up potential sellers rather than the fans!

I'm bewildered over the sale of Heffs given that the Club must've known that Lita was going. I'm not sure that Stewart and Broker are the right mix - Heffs would've complemented either of these two well and given us much needed options.

I feel a raid on Hartlepool is required! A centre-forward, centre-back please, plus the manager as our new assistant.

As for The Board lacking ambition - they haven't lacked ambition - just authorised goddam awful signings and have overseen slipshod management with a 'that'll do/can't be arsed' culture pervading the Club. Tins may be turning the corner -though its been an evolutionary rather than revolutionary approach - let's hope the Board back him now, when at least there's a chance of breaking out of the mediocracy rut that we've been stuck in for far too long .

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As for The Board lacking ambition - they haven't lacked ambition - just authorised goddam awful signings and have overseen slipshod management with a 'that'll do/can't be arsed' culture pervading the Club.  Tins may be turning the corner -though its been an evolutionary rather than revolutionary approach - let's hope the Board back him now, when at least there's a chance of breaking out of the mediocracy rut that we've been stuck in for far too long .

They have no ambition! what they should have done was sat Lita down and sed look u have a year left on your contract stay with and sign a 2 year deal get us the goals then if a big club comes in for you then we'll let you go! in january or end of the season 4 decent money!

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Are you aware of our average attendance last time we were in division II ?

I thought not.

Check it out for yourself, I can't be arsed to tell you - other than it was nowhere near 17,000.

That's a mute point, football was on its knees then.

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