Did You Fall For It?

[Guest Yate Red]

Can't believe so may people fell for the carrot of the new stand and the signing of stewart to renew their season tickets!!!

I for one stuck to my guns (although tempted when reduced capacity was talked about) but then I came to my senses and realisticaly thought about it!! How many times a year do we sell more than 15,000 tickets and average 12,000 that leaves 3,000 tickets for me!

Then stewart signing was good but he's getting on a bit, but playing with Lita with Brooker as backup I thought fantastic (again the temptation nearly got to me)!!!

Then today my decision has been justified with the selling of Lita for an UNDISCLOSSED fee!! (Why all the secracy).

A club going places we aren't and all my pre season optimism seems to be draining away as we let a hot tallent leave the gate for that massive club Reading, and announce delays to the re-development!

Yet again City take one step forard and two back and I find it hard to belive anything that comes from the club anymore.

I so hope I am proven wrong this season and clammer to buy my half season ticket at christmas and then look from my seat to see a new stand rising up from the old East end, but hand on heart I just can't see it!!!

[gazza1982]

Can't believe so may people fell for the carrot of the new stand and the signing of stewart to renew their season tickets!!!

I for one stuck to my guns (although tempted when reduced capacity was talked about) but then I came to my senses and realisticaly thought about it!! How many times a year do we sell more than 15,000 tickets and average 12,000 that leaves 3,000 tickets for me!

Then stewart signing was good but he's getting on a bit, but playing with Lita with Brooker as backup I thought fantastic (again the temptation nearly got to me)!!!

Then today my decision has been justified with the selling of Lita for an UNDISCLOSSED fee!! (Why all the secracy).

A club going places we aren't and all my pre season  optimism seems to be draining away as we let a hot tallent leave the gate for that massive club Reading, and announce delays to the re-development!

Yet again City take one step forard and two back and I find it hard to belive anything that comes from the club anymore.

I so hope I am proven wrong this season and clammer to buy my half season ticket at christmas and then look from my seat to see a new stand rising up from the old East end, but hand on heart I just can't see it!!!

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The man has a point.

[Sir Colby-Tit]

I didn't fall for anything

I would have still renewed my season ticket if we'd lost all our players & moved to the downs.

My support for City is unconditional

CTID

[MATTBCFC]

Summed up in 1....fair play mate someone that see's this the same way as me.

I have accused people in the past of having no optimism....but today mine is draining away with yours. Same old City...sell our best players after promising not to. As for the satnd....how can anyone every believe anything Mr Slimeball Sexton ever says again....how much rubbish does this bloke spout ?????

I'm sure we'll get bombarded by the 'true' City fans now (I've only being a supporter 33 years...!!!!) saying we should stay behind the club...well wake up boys and smell the coffee....you've all been conned....AGAIN..!!

[The Casual Connoisseur]

The man has a point.

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Or maybe just hindsight?

[Guest Neo]

I didn't fall for anything

I would have still renewed my season ticket if we'd lost all our players & moved to the downs.

My support for City is unconditional

CTID

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Same for me except there was 1 condition; that being the badge issue.

Once that went away, it was game on!

[Guest andy234]

Must admit my optimism of a few weeks ago has evaporated and I now feel disappointed and let down.

[Guest Were dreamers]

Can't believe so may people fell for the carrot of the new stand and the signing of stewart to renew their season tickets!!!

I for one stuck to my guns (although tempted when reduced capacity was talked about) but then I came to my senses and realisticaly thought about it!! How many times a year do we sell more than 15,000 tickets and average 12,000 that leaves 3,000 tickets for me!

Then stewart signing was good but he's getting on a bit, but playing with Lita with Brooker as backup I thought fantastic (again the temptation nearly got to me)!!!

Then today my decision has been justified with the selling of Lita for an UNDISCLOSSED fee!! (Why all the secracy).

A club going places we aren't and all my pre season  optimism seems to be draining away as we let a hot tallent leave the gate for that massive club Reading, and announce delays to the re-development!

Yet again City take one step forard and two back and I find it hard to belive anything that comes from the club anymore.

I so hope I am proven wrong this season and clammer to buy my half season ticket at christmas and then look from my seat to see a new stand rising up from the old East end, but hand on heart I just can't see it!!!

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[Guest thatchermeup]

you aint the only one!!!

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[Robbored]

Can't believe so may people fell for the carrot of the new stand and the signing of stewart to renew their season tickets!!!

I for one stuck to my guns (although tempted when reduced capacity was talked about) but then I came to my senses and realisticaly thought about it!! How many times a year do we sell more than 15,000 tickets and average 12,000 that leaves 3,000 tickets for me!

Then stewart signing was good but he's getting on a bit, but playing with Lita with Brooker as backup I thought fantastic (again the temptation nearly got to me)!!!

Then today my decision has been justified with the selling of Lita for an UNDISCLOSSED fee!! (Why all the secracy).

A club going places we aren't and all my pre season  optimism seems to be draining away as we let a hot tallent leave the gate for that massive club Reading, and announce delays to the re-development!

Yet again City take one step forard and two back and I find it hard to belive anything that comes from the club anymore.

I so hope I am proven wrong this season and clammer to buy my half season ticket at christmas and then look from my seat to see a new stand rising up from the old East end, but hand on heart I just can't see it!!!

Typical Yate Red (or should it be Yate Blue?) We hear nothing from him/her for ages when City are signing players but at the first sign of something to whinge about they are back witha vengence.A diatribe of vitriol with no other purpose than to slag of the club they supposedly "support". As I said to one of your cohort's last night - Cheerio.

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[RedTop]

I fell for nothing. I support City through thick and thin. I buy a season ticket every year. I don't need the promise of a new stand to tempt me.

Stewart signing was good news. Lita going is disappointing news, tempered by the knowledge he's going for a fair fee and he could walk away for nothing a year from now. Simple as that. But my support depended on neither of them because the club is bigger than either of them.

But if Stewart had never come, Lita had gone and we'd signed no-one new I'd still be buying a season ticket for one reason alone: I'm a Bristol City fan and I enjoy watching Bristol City play.

Call me a masochist, but it's true. And actually, I am still filled with plenty of hope for the coming season.

If your decision to buy a season ticket really does depend on whether a new stand is built, I find that rather weird. It's a free world and it's up to you how to spend your money, If City don't tempt you to shell out, then fine. I'm sure we'll be able to get behind the lads despite the loss.

[Guest Yate Red]

Sorry Nobby Red but didn't say I was going anywhere!!

And for info I think you will find some very possitive posts from me on backing Tins and the good signings of Stewart, Smith, Russel and hopefully another centre back, but these were meant to be additons to the squad and the likes of Lita are very important!

I'm just glad I didn't renew and I would like to point out my last few lines of my post and hope this is the case!! I want BCFC to be up at the top of the Championship but we never seem to make any progress and when we seem to be getting somewhere it all goes slightly off track?!

Nobby Red I commend your support but don't question mine, with cheap digs and the forum is to express opinion, it seems if it doesn't fall in line with yours lets resort to childish slagging off!!

WEL DONE NOBBY RED!!!!!

[gazareth]

You criticise him for childish slagging off and in the same sentence call him "Nobby Red".

The ironing is delicious.

[Robbored]

The ironing is delicious.

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but not suprising.....

[openEnd]

Same for me except there was 1 condition; that being the badge issue.

Once that went away, it was game on! 

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Ditto.

The stand ...

Lita? unfortunate, but understandable. Could you imagine an internet forum in 1990, on the day we sold Super Bob?

[Guest Yate Red]

You criticise him for childish slagging off and in the same sentence call him "Nobby Red".

The ironing is delicious.

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Sorry Gazreth I seemd to be dragged down to Robboreds level for one moment!

Just grates me he doesn't seem to start posts justs waits to jump in and dismiss peoples opinions no matter what the subject and he thinks I'm negative!!

And then sinks to the depths of implying I'm a Darkside supporter!! Sorry the line has to be drawn somewhere!!!!!

[Robbored]

All these negative posts have suddenly come to the fore now that Lita is talking over a move to Reading.

Dress it up however much you like, that is what all this outpouring of rubbish is down to - not just this post, but dozens of ill-informed others.

Lita leaving will have little effect on the team, the delays in construction are to be expected given the circumstances, and the squad has been sensibly strengthened - and hopefully will continue to be strengthened in the coming weeks.

Tinnion and the board have had a great pre-season so far by getting shot of some deadwood and some who just wanted to go on to bigger and better things, replacing them and getting money in at the same time.

Did I fall for it ?  Fall for what ?  Lies, deceit, mis-information or what ?

This is the best pre-season I can remember for a long time.

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You'll be accussed of being "in Robbored's camp" next!

Amen to the gist of your post - spot on.

[Guest Yate Red]

All these negative posts have suddenly come to the fore now that Lita is talking over a move to Reading.

Dress it up however much you like, that is what all this outpouring of rubbish is down to - not just this post, but dozens of ill-informed others.

Why am i ill- informed?

Lita leaving will have little effect on the team, the delays in construction are to be expected given the circumstances, and the squad has been sensibly strengthened - and hopefully will continue to be strengthened in the coming weeks.

If delays are to be expected then so will costs and why be so public about the stand if little things like planning permission, funding and tenders haven't even been agrred? This resulted in ticket price increases and people moving seats!!!!!

Tinnion and the board have had a great pre-season so far by getting shot of some deadwood and some who just wanted to go on to bigger and better things, replacing them and getting money in at the same time.

Did I fall for it ?  Fall for what ?  Lies, deceit, mis-information or what ?

Fell for all the hype about the stand, reduced attendancies and keeping Leroy? 

This is the best pre-season I can remember for a long time.

For what reasons?

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[MATTBCFC]

I totally agree with you again Yate Red - Robbored and Cynic - you have your points of view and I appreciate them....but don't you feel we also have ours ? Instead of just slagging us off and calling us pesimists, why not appreciate our points of views as well. I also agree that it has been excellent pre-season until now and the timing leaves a lot to be desired with regards announcing the stand being delayed.

We all want the best for City but Yate Red has a very valid point however you look at it....the directors have encouraged everyone to buy Season tickets knowing full well the stand was not going to get built and also expecting Lita to go (as did most of us to be fair) but still told us he was going nowhere.

Maybe I'll change my mind if we go and buy a good replacement, but I can't see much money being spent.

We'll shortly have 3 strikers left at the club and with the restrictions of transfers next season, Tins is going to need to do something .....and fast.

[Robbored]

If you read the statement of the main site you'll see that its Bristol City Council not Bristol City FC that have been "delayed".

Nothing suprising there....

[openEnd]

If you read the statement of the main site you'll see that its Bristol City Council not Bristol City FC that have been "delayed".

Nothing suprising there....

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Just keeping lapping it all up Robbored. CS must love those like you.

If for arguments sake the stand doesn't start this season (as I suspect), and if I'm correct in saying, you have paid a little extra for your Dolman ST due to the reduction in capacity.

Will you question it? or just accept it?

[Alex_BCFC]

It has undoubtedly been a disapointing couple of days for City. Having said that, we have a good attack partnership, potentially the best in the league. We have a reasonable midfield but need to sort out the defence still. I think Tinnion should be looking to buy a new CB, another forward(which he has stated) and a left winger. He has until the end of august- though it would be better to buy in the next month obviously. We still have a good crop of youngsters bar Anyinsah of course. There is optimistic points and negative ones. I still feel we have the squad to be top 6 and hope we add to it. Even if we went down I would renew my season ticket. This is BCFC- my team.

[Robbored]

Just keeping lapping it all up Robbored. CS must love those like you.

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Are you suggesting that we are being deliberately misled by Sexstone? and that the statement on the mainsite is not to be believed?

[openEnd]

Are you suggesting that we are being deliberately misled by Sexstone? and that the statement on the mainsite is not to be believed?

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I am highlighting that the statement made does not say it is entirely down to Bristol City Council. You choose to use the bits you want to and ignore the full facts. CS admits funding is not in place either.

The only thing they have managed to do is take more cash off the supporters in the shape of buy a brick and debentures, strangely they can get that bit right, without delay? How is that, practice makes perfect I suppose.

If you read the statement of the main site you'll see that its Bristol City Council not Bristol City FC that have been "delayed".

Nothing suprising there....

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Now if you'd be so kind to answer my question?

[Robbored]

It doesn't matter when money for debentures and/or bricks is forthcoming.I assume it all goes into the stand fund and will stay there accumilating interest untill its needed. Organsing such fund raising "in house" intiatives is childs play compared to the very complex planning that goes with a £6m project that relies heavily on external organisations "doing there bit" on schedule.

It seems like the council are dragging their feet and as I said before - "no suprise there".

[openEnd]

It doesn't matter when money for debentures and/or bricks is forthcoming.I assume it all goes into the stand fund and will stay there accumilating interest untill its needed. Organsing such fund raising "in house" intiatives is childs play compared to the very complex planning that goes with a £6m project that relies heavily on external organisations "doing there bit" on schedule.

It seems like the council are dragging their feet and as I said before - "no suprise there".

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Before I scrolled down to read your reply, I asked myself I wonder if he sidesteps my question. You didn't dissapoint.

If for arguments sake the stand doesn't start this season (as I suspect), and if I'm correct in saying, you have paid a little extra for your Dolman ST due to the reduction in capacity.

Will you question it? or just accept it?

My question has nothing to do with bricks or debentures.

[gazareth]

Will you question it? or just accept it?

It doesn't matter when money for debentures and/or bricks is forthcoming.I assume it all goes into the stand fund and will stay there accumilating interest untill its needed. Organsing such fund raising "in house" intiatives is childs play compared to the very complex planning that goes with a £6m project that relies heavily on external organisations "doing there bit" on schedule.

I took that to be his reply; i.e. he won't question it because he sees that the money will be going to the stand project even if the stand isn't being built on schedule.

[Guest wed wobin]

I think that is exactly what this thread is all about - there are some who are saying that the club are deliberately misleading supporters to get them to part with their dosh.

"did you fall for it" is the title of the thread which suggests the club, in some way, has dishonestly extracted funds from it's supporter base.

Or have I got it wrong ?

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Spot on Cynic, although I believe LL is good business for the club, the board & certainly 2 first team players (who I personally had the pleasure of a very surprisingly open chat with) were aware that Leroy was going at least 2 weeks ago but wanted to keep it under wraps as season ticket sales were slightly behind target.

[Guest Yate Red]

I took that to be his reply; i.e. he won't question it because he sees that the money will be going to the stand project even if the stand isn't being built on schedule.

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Robbo is side stepping the question!!!

Its not about debenture or bricks its about season tickets sales, this money will go to the club not the stand funds! Robbo must be happy to part with extra cash under the guise of a new stand and reduced capacity!!

[Robbored]

Before I scrolled down to read your reply, I asked myself I wonder if he sidesteps my question. You didn't dissapoint.

My question has nothing to do with bricks or debentures.

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I forgot to add increased Dolman stand season tickets to "bricks and debentures" but my point remains the same although you don't seemingly get it.That is that any money raised will go into the stand fund for use whenever that maybe.

I did question the unbalanced approach to in the increase in Dolman ST's when it was first announced and posted a thread on the subject.In my view all the Dolman seats should have gone up pro rata and not just an increase in the red seats.

That imo is taking advantage of your most loyal supporters.

[Guest Yate Red]

Spot on Cynic, although I believe LL is good business for the club, the board & certainly 2 first team players (who I personally had the pleasure of a very surprisingly open chat with) were aware that Leroy was going at least 2 weeks ago but wanted to keep it under wraps as season ticket sales were slightly behind target.

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This wouldn't suprise me! But get ready for the folks dimissing your chat with the players as fanatsy!!! Just wait!!

[openEnd]

I forgot to add increased Dolman stand season tickets to "bricks and debentures" but my point remains the same although you don't seemingly get it.That is that any money raised will go into the stand fund for use whenever that maybe.

I did question the unbalanced approach to in the increase in Dolman ST's when it was first announced and posted a thread on the subject.In my view all the Dolman seats should have gone up pro rata and not just an increase in the red seats.

That imo is taking advantage of your most loyal supporters.

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Couldn't resist the superfan quip could you. Why are red seated Dolman goers more loyal than those that don't site on the half way line.

To reiterate my point (and yes even I'm getting bored of asking it). Last try... this time next year and having paid a premium for something that didn't come to fruition, will you feel misled or not? Yes/No

[Guest wed wobin]

This wouldn't suprise me! But get ready for the folks dimissing your chat with the players as fanatsy!!! Just wait!!

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Already got slaughtered for suggesting he was going to reading a couple of weeks ago

[Guest Yate Red]

Already got slaughtered for suggesting he was going to reading a couple of weeks ago

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Just remeber Wed Wobin anything that is down cast, not popular or a rumour that in your opinion is true will get slated from certain quaters of this forum!!

I swear some people on this forum are BCFC emplyees under a pseudonym?!

[Maesknoll Red]

I did question the unbalanced approach to in the increase in Dolman ST's when it was first announced and posted a thread on the subject.In my view all the Dolman seats should have gone up pro rata and not just an increase in the red seats.

That imo is taking advantage of your most loyal supporters.

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I'm devastated....... 40 years of supporting City, working at the ground in my school holidays, travelling home & away, the highs of the first (prem) division, the lows of the fourth division, the gut wrenching time in '82, membership of the City Society (now City 2000) and thousands of pounds in season tickets........ and I'm not a loyal supporter because I sit on a wooden seat.

[Robbored]

Couldn't resist the superfan quip could you. Why are red seated Dolman goers more loyal than those that don't site on the half way line.

To reiterate my point (and yes even I'm getting bored of asking it). Last try... this time next year and having paid a premium for something that didn't come to fruition, will you feel misled or not? Yes/No

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If you mean not getting promoted then my answer would be no - because nothing is guaranteed in football.

If you mean the new stand not getting started my answer would still be no - because if it hasn't happened there would have be genuine reasons behind it.

I don't believe the club ever set out to mislead anyone.

[Guest WillsbridgeRed]

If you mean not getting promoted then my answer would be no - because nothing is guaranteed in football.

If you mean the new stand not getting started my answer would still be no - because if it hasn't happened there would have be genuine reasons behind it.

I don't believe the club ever set out to mislead anyone.

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But I'm sure you would agree that they have taken their spin abit too far this time.

[Guest BeNeRz]

I didn't fall for anything

I would have still renewed my season ticket if we'd lost all our players & moved to the downs.

My support for City is unconditional

CTID

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This is what is should be like!

[openEnd]

If you mean the new stand not getting started my answer would still be no - because if it hasn't happened there would have be genuine reasons behind it.

I don't believe the club ever set out to mislead anyone.

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So there you have your answer folks. Like I said Robbored. CS must love people like you. You and people like you are the reason Bristol City Supporters have the pi$$ taken out of them season on season under this current board. No more.

[Robbored]

So there you have your answer folks. Like I said Robbored. CS must love people like you. You and people like you are the reason Bristol City Supporters have the pi$$ taken out of them season on season under this current board. No more.

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No more? so whats your plan?

Hmmm.....I know! you won't renew your season ticket!....or maybe you'll boo the players after they've drawn a game at AG...or maybe you'll become a partimer and "pick and choose" your games but still booo regardless........you may even phone up Twentyman and slag off BCFC for all your worth.

One thing you will (unforunately) do is continue to post negative and critcal posts about all things BCFC on this forum.

It makes me wonder why you don't go over to the dark side.At least then you'd have someting to genuinely complain about.

[RedTop]

So there you have your answer folks. Like I said Robbored. CS must love people like you. You and people like you are the reason Bristol City Supporters have the pi$$ taken out of them season on season under this current board. No more.

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If you are seriously suggesting that the club under Steve Lansdown's stewardship is deliberately setting out to con its fans, then I suggest you have a chat to a few other fans and then apologise to him. Anyone who has met Steve and had the chance to chat to him about the club - and more of us have probably had the chance to talk to our chairman that than at most clubs - will tell you he is a principled and honest man, if flawed just like the rest of us.

By all means suggest he has made mistakes. We all do. But to suggest he acts in any way other than in the club's best interests is not only way off the mark, it is an insult to someone who deserves better.

[openEnd]

No more? so whats your plan?

Hmmm.....I know!  you won't renew your season ticket!....or maybe you'll boo the players after they've drawn a game at AG...or maybe you'll become a partimer and "pick and choose" your games but still booo regardless........you may even phone up Twentyman and slag off BCFC for all your worth.

One thing you will (unforunately) do is continue to post negative and critcal posts about all things BCFC on this forum.

It makes me wonder why you don't go over to the dark side.At least then you'd have someting to genuinely complain about.

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You are one tedious individual. Have you ever stood up to anything?

Yes, I'll post negative posts if the people in charge of this club continue to make howler after howler at the clubs expense. How much has been wasted on this latest fiasco?

I've renewed this season, unfortunately not a red seat, cos I'm not loyal enough. Booooooo? Yeah I'll do that.

And out rolls the old 'Go support the Gas' Joker. Yeah I'll do that too, I live a mile from AG, have supported City for almost 30 years, my father before me, his father too but I'll travel across town to watch that shower, because Robbored can't accept justified criticism of Colin Sexstone and the 'legend' (snigger) that is Steve Lansdown. Well Robbo you are the joker, the joke's on you, this board are laughing at you.

Just when you think they can't screw any more out of fans, they pull another gem out of the bag, you and your ilk sit back and accept it. We deserve better but I fear we should all prepare for more of the same.

[MattyAli]

there is only one reason I did not renew my season ticket..!!!!!! CASH. Could not give a monkey's about the new stand, the badge, what the shirts look like, if Lita stays or goes or if we sign tweedle de or tweedle dum. (both are available on a free before anyone asks.) I just cannot afford to shell out that sort of cash.

[Chivs]

You criticise him for childish slagging off and in the same sentence call him "Nobby Red".

The ironing is delicious.

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May I point out to younger members of the forum that tasting your iron whilst it is plugged in is not advisable.

I should know.

[StapleHillPhil]

I did question the unbalanced approach to in the increase in Dolman ST's when it was first announced and posted a thread on the subject.In my view all the Dolman seats should have gone up pro rata and not just an increase in the red seats.

That imo is taking advantage of your most loyal supporters.

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Do you really class people who sit in the middle of the Dolman as more loyal?

You could argue they are more affluent on the whole, but to suggest they are more loyal is an insult to people who choose to sit in other parts of the ground.

[Guest blockbrowt]

Well said Yate Red

Give it to Christmas I say, have no optimism for it anymore. Still bitter after Millenium fiasco the other year. Every year the same these days, come mid season we shall see. Getting fed up with all the pre-season hype again. Really hope that City do it this year, but shan't hold my breath though!

[Guest shire_redz]

Come on Open End and Robbored, keep going, the tv's cack tonight!

[gazareth]

Do you really class people who sit in the middle of the Dolman as more loyal?

You could argue they are more affluent on the whole, but to suggest they are more loyal is an insult to people who choose to sit in other parts of the ground.

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I'd like to hear robbored's thinking behind this claim too!

[Robbored]

It was an error for me suggest that the red seats are exclusively for "loyal fans" only.In my own defence I was trying to make a salient point which was unfortunately lost in the hundrum of the forum.

I apologise for any offence caused.

[MATTBCFC]

You are one tedious individual. Have you ever stood up to anything?

Yes, I'll post negative posts if the people in charge of this club continue to make howler after howler at the clubs expense. How much has been wasted on this latest fiasco?

I've renewed this season, unfortunately not a red seat, cos I'm not loyal enough. Booooooo? Yeah I'll do that.

And out rolls the old 'Go support the Gas' Joker. Yeah I'll do that too, I live a mile from AG, have supported City for almost 30 years, my father before me, his father too but I'll travel across town to watch that shower, because Robbored can't accept justified criticism of Colin Sexstone and the 'legend' (snigger) that is Steve Lansdown. Well Robbo you are the joker, the joke's on you, this board are laughing at you.

Just when you think they can't screw any more out of fans, they pull another gem out of the bag, you and your ilk sit back and accept it. We deserve better but I fear we should all prepare for more of the same.

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Yeah , well said openend - everyone to their own - we all have our own points of view....it just seems that on this forum as it is with going down the gate, if you don't post as much as some sad individuals that spend all day on here, then unfortunately you don't seem to have as much right to speak your mind ??? What the hells that all about ?? Why don't you just try and accept people for who they are Robbored - who do you think you are Mr Bristol City is it....? Shut up, grow up and except other people's point of view.

I love the 'if you had ever met Steve Lansdowne' comment earlier in this thread as well....!! I played 5 a side with Messrs Lansdowne, Clapp and Laycock and stood in a bar after listening to them slag Tony Thorpe (during the Pulis era) and I then told them that regardless of what kind of person he was, he was what the fans wanted - a goalscorer - apparantly when I left they told my father in law that I was the kind of City supporter they should be listening to....red through and through....hey presto within a couple of weeks he was in the 1st team and scoring 18 goals during the last half of the season. So yeah I have met Lansdowne, doesn't mean I can't have my opinion on what has been done between May and now.

Get a reality check Robbored and all the regulars on here - I like openend have followed City for 30 odd years - all around the country....some people can no longer afford the time or money to follow City everywhere or some even to buy a season ticket due to family commitments, work commitments etc etc.... doesn't mean we love City anyless....in fact we get told we still eat drink and sleep Bristol City...33 years of following City means we've seen it all before, been spun the same crap time and again - anyone that thinks Messrs Sexstone and Lansdowne thought Leroy would start City's game opening game of the 2005/06 season whilst spinning the rubbish about the stand at the same time needs their head reading. And yes that is 'my opinion' as I've said - you are entitled to yours.

So if you want to continue to slag your own supporters whilst sticking up for a multi millionaire who's about to sell our star striker to fund the wages of one we thought he would be playing with.....just carry on...

[Guest Yate Red]

Yeah , well said openend - everyone to their own - we all have our own points of view....it just seems that on this forum as it is with going down the gate, if you don't post as much as some sad individuals that spend all day on here, then unfortunately you don't seem to have as much right to speak your mind ??? What the hells that all about ?? Why don't you just try and accept people for who they are Robbored - who do you think you are Mr Bristol City is it....? Shut up, grow up  and except other people's point of view.

I love the 'if you had ever met Steve Lansdowne' comment earlier in this thread as well....!!  I played 5 a side with Messrs Lansdowne, Clapp and Laycock and stood in a bar after listening to them slag Tony Thorpe (during the Pulis era) and I then told them that regardless of what kind of person he was, he was what the fans wanted - a goalscorer - apparantly when I left they told my father in law that I was the kind of City supporter they should be listening to....red through and through....hey presto within a couple of weeks he was in the 1st team and scoring 18 goals during the last half of the season. So yeah I have met Lansdowne, doesn't mean I can't have my opinion on what has been done between May and now.

Get a reality check Robbored and all the regulars on here - I like openend have followed City for 30 odd years - all around the country....some people can no longer afford the time or money to follow City everywhere or some even to buy a season ticket due to family commitments, work commitments etc etc.... doesn't mean we love City anyless....in fact we get told we still eat drink and sleep Bristol City...33 years of following City means we've seen it all before, been spun the same crap time and again - anyone that thinks Messrs Sexstone and Lansdowne thought Leroy would start City's game opening game of the 2005/06 season whilst spinning the rubbish about the stand at the same time needs their head reading. And yes that is 'my opinion' as I've said - you are entitled to yours.

So if you want to continue to slag your own supporters whilst sticking up for a multi millionaire who's about to sell our star striker to fund the wages of one we thought he would be playing with.....just carry on...

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Well said Matt!! That just sums up my original thread nicely!!

Thanks!!

Response please Robbo?!?!? Me thinks Matt might be in for some stick ey Robbo?!?!

[Robbored]

Get a reality check Robbored and all the regulars on here - I like openend have followed City for 30 odd years - all around the country....some people can no longer afford the time or money to follow City everywhere or some even to buy a season ticket due to family commitments, work commitments etc etc.... doesn't mean we love City anyless....in fact we get told we still eat drink and sleep Bristol City...33 years of following City means we've seen it all before, been spun the same crap time and again - anyone that thinks Messrs Sexstone and Lansdowne thought Leroy would start City's game opening game of the 2005/06 season whilst spinning the rubbish about the stand at the same time needs their head reading. And yes that is 'my opinion' as I've said - you are entitled to yours.

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We are all entitled to an opinion and of course opinions will vary from one individual to another.None of us have a problem with that basic concept.

What I have "a problem" with is the anger and bitterness that accompanies some of the more critical threads on this forum.Some posters are seemingly so angry that they are unable to put over a balanced opinion.Its all critism and nothing else and it gets wareing after a while.

My stance is always to try and understand why the club makes a particular decision whether it be the selling of a player or the delaying of the stand or any other matter.There are always good reasons why those decisions are made and those reasons have the interests of the club at heart.

Lets not forget that BCFC is a buisness as well as a football club and in all buisness tough decisions have to be made and I'm gratefull that its not me who has to make them.

Like most City fans I would have liked to see Lita stay but I can understand why he's going.Lansdown has said many times that "every player has his price" and when an unrefusable offer comes in it has to be accepted given the financial situation at the club.Its the same in probably 85 of the 92 league clubs.Why some fans can't see that is beyond me.

Instead of a balanced view we get masses of vitriol that serves no purpose.Angry tirades achieve nothing except to lower the morale of those who run the club to the point where they consider resigning and thats not what the club need right now.

[Guest budbcfc]

i don't have a holiday abroad and chose to have a cheapo camping trip to cornwall. why? so that i can afford my season ticket every year. sad maybe but the missus is happy as long as she can see the sea. perhaps one year the club will take us all on holiday to the european champions league final to watch our team. " YES DARLING hicI WILL HAVE ANOTHER PINT.hic

[MATTBCFC]

We are all entitled to an opinion and of course opinions will vary from one individual to another.None of us have a problem with that basic concept.

What I have "a problem" with is the anger and bitterness that accompanies some of the more critical threads on this forum.Some posters are seemingly so angry that they are unable to put over a balanced opinion.Its all critism and nothing else and it gets wareing after a while.

My stance is always to try and understand why the club makes a particular decision whether it be the selling of a player or the delaying of the stand or any other matter.There are always good reasons why those decisions are made and those reasons have the interests of the club at heart.

Lets not forget that BCFC is a buisness as well as a football club and in all buisness tough decisions have to be made and I'm gratefull that its not me who has to make them.

Like most City fans I would have liked to see Lita stay but I can understand why he's going.Lansdown has said many times that "every player has his price" and when an unrefusable offer comes in it has to be accepted given the financial situation at the club.Its the same in probably 85 of the 92 league clubs.Why some fans can't see that is beyond me.

Instead of a balanced view we get masses of vitriol that serves no purpose.Angry tirades achieve nothing except to lower the morale of those who run the club to the point where they consider resigning and thats not what the club need right now.

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God you crack me up....I'm wouldn't say I'm angry - more disappointed.

I understand we are a business - surely businesses need to take a small gamble sometimes ? If we asked Lita to see his contract out we could get 7-8 times more in revenue by getting promoted. Then he'd want to stay and if he didn't and he'd had another great season then we'd be entitled to compensation which would exceed what we are getting now...but yes its a gamble.

Mine was not an angry tirade, it was making valid points to you the majority of which you have skirted past. I undertsand your points about everyone having their price and I agree that most clubs will always be selling clubs. It would be different if Leroy had said from the outset that he wanted to leave but he didn't - at the same token he didn't sign the offer of a new contract either so why not take up the option of keeping him for the length he signed for ? It would be different if he wanted to leave - I think keping players that don't want to play for you is pointless....they give less and the team suffers.

Finally its not fair to lump me Yate Red and openend 'angry' 'bitter' and 'critical' category - we're simply saying it as we see it....look out for more optimistic threads from me and the other 2....whom i hasten too add I don't know....maybe we'll talk and agree on future issues.

Anyway - time to put this one to bed....I for one am not going to argue with fellow City fans....discuss yes....argue no.....