greenun Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 According to today's EP, Gary Johnson is on the lookout for a loan signing, before the March 22 deadline, but only if they want to join City on a permament basis thereafter.Unfortunately, FIFA rules state that a player can only be loaned to 2 clubs during a season, procluding any approach by City for Southampton's Leon Best, who has already appeared for Bournemouth and Yeovil.Who the hell is available anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Unfortunately, FIFA rules state that a player can only be loaned to 2 clubs during a season, procluding any approach by City for Southampton's Leon Best, who has already appeared for Bournemouth and Yeovil.Can anyone confirm this mystical rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenun Posted March 16, 2007 Author Share Posted March 16, 2007 [qupte]Unfortunately, FIFA rules state that a player can only be loaned to 2 clubs during a season, procluding any approach by City for Southampton's Leon Best, who has already appeared for Bournemouth and Yeovil.Can anyone confirm this mystical rule?Nathan Jones already has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Nathan Jones already has I believe the FIFA rule is that players can only play for 2 clubs in a season (it was much talked about during the Mascherano fiasco).I thought it applied to loan signings and posted so a while back w.r.t Best but many people corrected me. There are a number of players who've played for more than 2 clubs this season due to loans - our own Dave Partridge being one obvious one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cider_Army Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Who the hell is available anyway?Wayne Rooney hasn't played for 2 clubs this season has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Any striker at any club that has nothing to play for (ie not getting relegated or promoted) is available if we are willing to spend the money and do what Forest did with Tyson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Any striker at any club that has nothing to play for (ie not getting relegated or promoted) is available if we are willing to spend the money and do what Forest did with Tyson.however.......how many clubs actually have nothing to play for at this point in the season??? and actually have a decent striker who will improve our team worth signing? regardless of how much he will cost?looking at League One, there isn't any......League Two........passConference...........waste of timefind a name and it maybe worth discussing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HambrookRed Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 however.......how many clubs actually have nothing to play for at this point in the season??? and actually have a decent striker who will improve our team worth signing? regardless of how much he will cost?looking at League One, there isn't any......League Two........passConference...........waste of timefind a name and it maybe worth discussingSharp S****horpe 23 Porter Oldham 19 Constantine Port Vale 17 Varney Crewe 17 Trundle Swansea 15 Byfield Millwall 14 Greenacre Tranmere 14 Maynard Crewe 13 Hawley Carlisle 12 Heffernan Doncaster 11 Holt Nottm Forest 11 Kuffour Brentford 11 Taylor-Fletcher Huddersfield 11 Beckett Huddersfield 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Sharp S****horpe 23 - unavailable - chasing auto promotionPorter Oldham 19 - unavailable - chasing play-offsConstantine Port Vale 17 - JUST NO!Varney Crewe 17 - unavailable - still chasing play-offsTrundle Swansea 15 - Wouldn't leave Swans for us and would we actually want him?Byfield Millwall 14 - unavailable - chasing play-offs and too oldGreenacre Tranmere 14 - unavailable - chasing play-offsMaynard Crewe 13 - unavailable - chasing play-offsHawley Carlisle 12 unavailable - chasing play-offsnon better scoring record this season than jevonsHeffernan Doncaster 11 - wouldn't come backHolt Nottm Forest 11 - been their done itKuffour Brentford 11 - NoTaylor-Fletcher Huddersfield 11 - wouldn't say he's any better than what we currently have?Beckett Huddersfield 10 - Noso looking through the top scorers in this league.........the only slight possible signing would be Taylor-Flecter? who although decent think is no better than what we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HambrookRed Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 so looking through the top scorers in this league.........the only slight possible signing would be Taylor-Flecter? who although decent think is no better than what we haveGave you something to chat about though didnt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 however.......how many clubs actually have nothing to play for at this point in the season??? and actually have a decent striker who will improve our team worth signing? regardless of how much he will cost?looking at League One, there isn't any......League Two........passConference...........waste of timefind a name and it maybe worth discussingConference is a waste of time? I guess Southend better get rid of Freddy Eastwood then. A young non league forward who's scoring lots like Steve Morison at Stevenage might well be worth a look.Karl Hawley is a good example of a league one player whose club realistically have nothing to play for and would improve our squad.But the overriding point is simple, we need to score more goals up front to get promoted and we don't look like doing it. We should have done this in January and if we had approached the window differently and gone after multiple targets instead of wasting time on one who wasn't interested we could have got one. Identifying players is what we're paying GJ's brother for, not me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 How about Cotts on loan from Wigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HambrookRed Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 How about Cotts on loan from Wigan I heard a forest fan somewhere, on BBC I think, talking about them loaning cotts....i did think then that he would be a great catch for us right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I heard a forest fan somewhere, on BBC I think, talking about them loaning cotts....i did think then that he would be a great catch for us right now...Swansea got rebuffed yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HambrookRed Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Swansea got rebuffed yesterday.hmm...might have been them since they appear to have less than 100 strikers for the first time this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HambrookRed Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Swansea got rebuffed yesterday.Pld Sub Goals YC RC15 (9) 1 3 0 Seems hes been involved quite a bit at wigan...and with there recent injuries surely they wouldnt let him go ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avonmouth Docker Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Draw a line from Cheltenham, through Swindon, and then down to Bournemouth.You can't tell me that there isn't a wealth of talent playing non-league football, and a player waiting to be given the chance in the big time!!. within the West Country, local talent, talent where pride comes before cash, like Eastwood and Sharp.Where or what are our scouts doing??.Most likely too late for this season, but for next, if we are in the same division!!.I'm still surprised, given the Latvian connection, that we haven't had a couple of Baltic players either on loan or trial.And maybe Popisil should of been given the get out clause he wanted.You must really start to ask, just exactly is this club run??. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Conference is a waste of time? I guess Southend better get rid of Freddy Eastwood then. A young non league forward who's scoring lots like Steve Morison at Stevenage might well be worth a look.Karl Hawley is a good example of a league one player whose club realistically have nothing to play for and would improve our squad.But the overriding point is simple, we need to score more goals up front to get promoted and we don't look like doing it. We should have done this in January and if we had approached the window differently and gone after multiple targets instead of wasting time on one who wasn't interested we could have got one. Identifying players is what we're paying GJ's brother for, not me!no, conference isn't a waste of time, however if you look at Eastwood, he went striaght into a League 2 team and scored and had some exerpience before stepping straight into league 1 and then forward, conference is great for a long term signing, but maybe not so for a immediate results and goals which is what people want/expect.besides if we are going to look at a conference striker who is scoring goals, then surely we should be looking at recalling Benyon who is scoring down there.Karl Hawley no doubt a good signing though obviously not cheap, the main sticking point though which makes him signing unrealistic is that Carlise are only 4 points off the play-offs, there is no way they could sell him now with 9 games to go, for starters their board would get lynched by their fans. if they were further down the league then if would be possible.Johnson has been identifiying players, but it's not just about finding who you want, it's about getting them in, Holt and the hearts bloke were the only ones that were publcially mentioned it's highly unlikely that they were the only ones we were after. Andrews was a target and was brought in has scored important goals for us, but has then been unlucky with injury.The most important thing in the window was getting wingers in, he did that, strikers were next on the list, he got one in but has been unlucky with injuries, however as we have found their isn't that much realistically available, it is highly likely that Johnson has found the same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Swansea City tried to sign one on loan yesterday and were knocked back by a Prem club, recent former player of this very club no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Hawley is injured anyway, possibly out for the season. So chalk that one off the list too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Karl Hawley no doubt a good signing though obviously not cheap, the main sticking point though which makes him signing unrealistic is that Carlise are only 4 points off the play-offs, there is no way they could sell him now with 9 games to go, for starters their board would get lynched by their fans. if they were further down the league then if would be possible.Carlisle have no chance of going up and well they know it, they're happy to be doing so well and Hawley has either a few months or just over a year left on his contract. Expectations at that club are lower for obvious reasons and with enough money we could certainly get him. I believe £400-£500k would get him (and even if it wasn't enough if you don't ask you don't get) and he's got pace and a great work rate - and he scores goals. None of our current strikers have that in one package.Johnson has been identifiying players, but it's not just about finding who you want, it's about getting them in, Holt and the hearts bloke were the only ones that were publcially mentioned it's highly unlikely that they were the only ones we were after. Andrews was a target and was brought in has scored important goals for us, but has then been unlucky with injury.Sorry, it's not unlikely that they were the only ones we were after because the exact same happened the January before. We need to take a leaf out of Forest's book when it comes to transfer signings on two counts. Do the work prior to the window so come Jan 1st it's a matter of signing a contract, and if we need to ignore the transfer window by abusing the loan system.The most important thing in the window was getting wingers in, he did that, strikers were next on the list, he got one in but has been unlucky with injuries, however as we have found their isn't that much realistically available, it is highly likely that Johnson has found the same situation.Andrews isn't good enough, sorry, and he was only ever cover for Jevons. Extending his loan was just a reaction to not getting a better player in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Hawley is injured anyway, possibly out for the season. So chalk that one off the list too!Fair enough, didn't know that. It might make our trip up there a little easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Can anyone confirm this mystical rule?Tom,It is a FIFA rule concerning players registrations and applies to permanent transfers as well as loans.See Article 5 of the Regulations for the Status and Transfer of PlayersArticle 5 Registration......3. Players may be registered for a maximum of three clubs during theperiod from 1 July until 30 June of the following year. During thisperiod, the player is only eligible to play in Official Matches for twoclubs.Article 10 to do with loans of professionals states "....Any such loan issubject to the same rules as apply to the transfer of players....."A bit of a minefield but relatively clear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 This lad could be worth a look at, seems like he's a natural goalscorer...http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...dge/6407453.stmI have a colleague who is a Daggers fan and can't believe he didn't go in January. He said the same to me about mackail-smith before Peterborough picked him up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 A bit of a minefield but relatively clear?It would seem to be however we've already seen several players like Dave Partridge, Jermaine Beckford, and Lee Camp play competitively for three clubs this season - without any special dispensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 It would seem to be however we've already seen several players like Dave Partridge, Jermaine Beckford, and Lee Camp play competitively for three clubs this season - without any special dispensation.I think the basis of it is with those players is that they can only play for 3 clubs in a season but no morethan that, i.e their parent club and 2 addition loan clubs.I think....well kinda, well that seems to be the fact that the EP article is pointing towards.........I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I think the basis of it is with those players is that they can only play for 3 clubs in a season but no morethan that, i.e their parent club and 2 addition loan clubs.I think....well kinda, well that seems to be the fact that the EP article is pointing towards.........I thinkThe rules are far from clear and it wouldn't surprise me if the EP had it wrong, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if the FA had it wrong and those three players shouldn't have been able to play for the teams they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I am sure I heard somewhere that the some of these rules only apply to premier league teams. I don't think they have the same loan facility as non premier teams, unless it applys to keepers only, so unless the EP are trying to throw other teams off the scent, they may have been incorrect.Si. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 doesn't suprise me at all, don't think anyone really knows what's going on.main thing is though and back to the orginal point, Leon Best, he actually came off the bench for Southampton against Cardiff, so why after just getting into the Saints team he would leave? especailly as he is out of contract till the end of the season.If i was the player in question I'd see it as my possible last chance to establish myself at the club and try my best it take it and get a new contract at Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 The rules are far from clear and it wouldn't surprise me if the EP had it wrong, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if the FA had it wrong and those three players shouldn't have been able to play for the teams they did.We could tip off the FL and maybe they'll dock all the points Yeovil & Scunny have earned since Best & Beckford have played for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 we already have on in plummer. i knwo he will be raw and hasn't signed but ishe worth a go?it might be too much pressue for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longacre_red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 We could tip off the FL and maybe they'll dock all the points Yeovil & Scunny have earned since Best & Beckford have played for them. From my football manager life..... I thought that rule was for permenant Transfers only. So technically if this is correct he could go on loan to 5 or 6 teams in one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest swindlered Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 no, conference isn't a waste of time, however if you look at Eastwood, he went striaght into a League 2 team and scored and had some exerpience before stepping straight into league 1 and then forward, conference is great for a long term signing, but maybe not so for a immediate results and goals which is what people want/expect.Michael kightly?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Michael kightly??already linked with other clubs. 2million plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Michael kightly??he's a winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I suggest we raid Luton..Off the top of my head they have..Adam BoydSam ParkinDrew TalbotWarren FeenyWith the first 2 unfavorable with the Lu'on fans recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I think swindlered meant michael kightly was an example of a conference player who came in to play at a higher level. Still, he wasnt valued at 2 million plus 6 months ago, Wolves signed him for about 250k, we could have sorted something out back then. Oh well, we could have signed rooney when he was 7 as well.that luton raid isnt a bad shout by the way. Boyd always scored a lot at hartlepool, and parkin did for swindon, are they fit?Si. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I suggest we raid Luton..Off the top of my head they have..Adam BoydSam ParkinDrew TalbotWarren FeenyWith the first 2 unfavorable with the Lu'on fans recently.Boyd and Parkin.......well the should slot in well with Brooker and Enoch on the injury list with fitness records.Luton are without a manager and fighitng against relegation, unlikely they will be letting anyone go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Boyd and Parkin.......well the should slot in well with Brooker and Enoch on the injury list with fitness records.Luton are without a manager and fighitng against relegation, unlikely they will be letting anyone goBoyd isnt notorious for being injured, and was awsome at this level not long ago.I'm thinking along the lines of new manager, new ideas, new players, might want to ship a few out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Boyd isnt notorious for being injured, and was awsome at this level not long ago.I'm thinking along the lines of new manager, new ideas, new players, might want to ship a few out.he had a decent season few years back getting 22 league goals for hartlepool, but since then he's barely done much, spent most of last season out with various injuries and has had problems again this season, either way his fitness record is a doubt......not worth the risk unless he can prove his fitness long-termno decision is likely on any players probably until a new manager is appointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 According to today's EP, Gary Johnson is on the lookout for a loan signing, before the March 22 deadline, but only if they want to join City on a permament basis thereafter.Unfortunately, FIFA rules state that a player can only be loaned to 2 clubs during a season, procluding any approach by City for Southampton's Leon Best, who has already appeared for Bournemouth and Yeovil.Who the hell is available anyway?intersting news today that forest have signed Alan Wright on loan........interesting because it is his 5th club this season, played 2 games for sheffield united and has since has loan spells this season at........Leeds, Cardiff, Doncaster and now Forest!crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bcfcred Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I heard Cotterill was signing on loan very soon from Wigan..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longacre_red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I heard Cotterill was signing on loan very soon from Wigan.....Doubt it, Swansea just had an offer turned down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bcfcred Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 And???Maybe he told them he wants to come to us on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HambrookRed Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 And???Maybe he told them he wants to come to us on loan.Did you here this on here :noexpression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DanC Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 no, conference isn't a waste of time, however if you look at Eastwood, he went striaght into a League 2 team and scored and had some exerpience before stepping straight into league 1 and then forward, conference is great for a long term signing, but maybe not so for a immediate results and goals which is what people want/expect.besides if we are going to look at a conference striker who is scoring goals, then surely we should be looking at recalling Benyon who is scoring down there.Karl Hawley no doubt a good signing though obviously not cheap, the main sticking point though which makes him signing unrealistic is that Carlise are only 4 points off the play-offs, there is no way they could sell him now with 9 games to go, for starters their board would get lynched by their fans. if they were further down the league then if would be possible.Johnson has been identifiying players, but it's not just about finding who you want, it's about getting them in, Holt and the hearts bloke were the only ones that were publcially mentioned it's highly unlikely that they were the only ones we were after. Andrews was a target and was brought in has scored important goals for us, but has then been unlucky with injury.The most important thing in the window was getting wingers in, he did that, strikers were next on the list, he got one in but has been unlucky with injuries, however as we have found their isn't that much realistically available, it is highly likely that Johnson has found the same situation.Where as Michael Kightly went straight from the Conference with Grays to the Championship with Wolves, 16 games and has scored 7 goals. OK he's a midfielder but it proves players can make that step up and make an instant impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yeovilmac Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 We've just signed Rooney..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bcfcred Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Naah I heard it from my mate who knows someone in the youth team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest evil city Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 cotteril shouldnt of been sold anyway cause marcus stewart went on loan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tux1982 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 parkin is already on loan at stoke i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 He's not at Sjoke and according to Soccerbase hasn't played since October - 7 games 1 goal, cost £340k last August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 parkin is already on loan at stoke i thinkThat's Jon Parkin on loan from Hull.Wonder if nathan Ellington fancies a couple of months back in Bristol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longacre_red Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 ok so how about our old player at cheltenham Kayode Odejayi? hes big strong and can hold the ball up no problem and frightens the life out of defenders oh and he also scores goals as well.Re: Cotterill coming back on loan, another reason he wont be coming back is GJ said he'd only bring players in who he'd look to sign on a permenant basis, and obviously Cotterill isn't going to come back permenantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh red Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 ok so how about our old player at cheltenham Kayode Odejayi? hes big strong and can hold the ball up no problem and frightens the life out of defenders oh and he also scores goals as well.regardless of whether he is good enough or not.........which personally I don't think he is, Cheltenham won't be letting players leave while they are in a relegation fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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