simon uk Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Saying he has been away playing for england. Presumably they played 3 games which will have taken at least a week in a tournament, and been training for at least a week before that so maybe thats why they havent got his contract done.Also, unless we are actively encouraging bids, presumably they wouldnt have put this on the website unless they were confident he would be signed and sealed when he comes back?In fairness I might be clutching at straws here!Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Saying he has been away playing for england. Presumably they played 3 games which will have taken at least a week in a tournament, and been training for at least a week before that so maybe thats why they havent got his contract done.Also, unless we are actively encouraging bids, presumably they wouldnt have put this on the website unless they were confident he would be signed and sealed when he comes back?In fairness I might be clutching at straws here!SiHopefully he will sign very soon if he hasnt already. Saw him play last season and he looked quality! Think he could be involved at the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 29, 2007 Admin Share Posted March 29, 2007 He is tied to the Academy for another year, the contract talks relate to a 'full time' contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bez Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 hope he's in the first team for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BS3 Cider Army Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 He's rejected a pro, thats all i know, so he wont be here for much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 He's rejected a pro, thats all i know, so he wont be here for much longer.how do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BS3 Cider Army Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 how do you know that?I just do, yesterday only a couple of players were offered pro's, the rest are off and only one rejected it and it was Plummer, i expect he has the same agent as Dwayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 ..tch,... why cant ya ever get a plumber when ya need one eh? .... & have you seen what they charge nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTop Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Never mind. I'm sure if this Plummer won't sign we can bring in a Polish guy to do the same job for half the price.I seem to remember the last Pole we had wasn't too bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Didn't Dolly have the inside track on the whole Plummer contract thing?I would be surprised if we were advertising how brill he is on the main site if he was in the process of trying to leave. Would be more than a little counter-productive. I know some don't rate SL, but I'm sure the experience with Rosenior will have come in handy on this sort of thing. If he goes I hope we make as much as we possibly can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robins72 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Didn't Dolly have the inside track on the whole Plummer contract thing?I would be surprised if we were advertising how brill he is on the main site if he was in the process of trying to leave. Would be more than a little counter-productive. I know some don't rate SL, but I'm sure the experience with Rosenior will have come in handy on this sort of thing. If he goes I hope we make as much as we possibly can.A girl she worked with I believe. HE hasnt signed anything yet but think she said something about agents and people mulling around. No deal done though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Never mind. I'm sure if this Plummer won't sign we can bring in a Polish guy to do the same job for half the price.I seem to remember the last Pole we had wasn't too bad...nice one red top. lets hope bro johnson is out east this summer so we can watch some more tasty ball skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I just do, yesterday only a couple of players were offered pro's, the rest are off and only one rejected it and it was Plummer, i expect he has the same agent as Dwayne.incorrect, as someone else said, dolly has the inside info, personally from what I heard from my mole was that the contract from pre-xmas is still on the table but is yet to be signed but hasn't been rejected, his agent is still trying to hawk him around other clubs, but no one is interested without a trial, which City aren't willing to allowhe's under contract till next season anyway, so unless an a club puts in an offical offer he is still our player till then.as for those that may or may not have been offered deals this week possibly, those would be the 2nd year academy players of which Plummer isn't a part of, he is still a first year player. the players in the 2nd year are, the likes of Artus, Wilson (already signed on pro deals) Klien-Davis, Billy Marshall, Golding, Haskins, Gardner and othershttp://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/AcademyInformat...~393830,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 It sounds to me as though Tristan is at risk of having his career damaged by an agent.The agent obviously sees a highly talented footballer who should maybe be at a higher paying club and is trying to force the issue. City are quite rightly not allowing themselves to be bullied here, and with Tristan being at the Academy for another year time is on their side.I hope Tristan has some sensible people to advise him, because a greedy* agent could really screw things up for him.*n.b. I have no proof that Tristan's agent is greedy, I'm merely inferring from what I've heard and the general stereotype of agents. I hope I'm wrong to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scumbag Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 got to be honest anyone who has seen his myspace webpage will see that the kid needs to get the right people alongside him to HELP his career, he needs to speak to someone like his brother or Marvin Brown to find out that although he may have talent, he shouldn't waste it with the wrong attitude and end up with careers like those twoI fear the worst for his football future, it's more than just ability, you need the right attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wellyred Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Never mind. I'm sure if this Plummer won't sign we can bring in a Polish guy to do the same job for half the price.I seem to remember the last Pole we had wasn't too bad...lets stick with english not a mercenary with no pashion for the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 lets stick with english not a mercenary with no pashion for the club what like the england football team, Terry & Garrard excepted. theyre English, and they care about playing for their country...NOT! :noexpression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BS3 Cider Army Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 incorrect, as someone else said, dolly has the inside info, personally from what I heard from my mole was that the contract from pre-xmas is still on the table but is yet to be signed but hasn't been rejected, his agent is still trying to hawk him around other clubs, but no one is interested without a trial, which City aren't willing to allowhe's under contract till next season anyway, so unless an a club puts in an offical offer he is still our player till then.as for those that may or may not have been offered deals this week possibly, those would be the 2nd year academy players of which Plummer isn't a part of, he is still a first year player. the players in the 2nd year are, the likes of Artus, Wilson (already signed on pro deals) Klien-Davis, Billy Marshall, Golding, Haskins, Gardner and othershttp://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/AcademyInformat...~393830,00.htmlBut does dolly have more inside info than me?How do you know this?, all I'm saying is that Plummer isn't staying and 2 have been given the green light to stay, Jordan Walker being one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redland Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Tristan signed a pre contract agreement under which he was supposed to sign a pro contract for us following his 17th birthday in January. He hasn't signed and his agent is apparantly trying to get him a deal elsewhere - and no doubt make himself a shed load of money. We appear to be Tristan's "fallback" position if no one else will take him on. Hardly a sign of passion or commitment for the club that has brought him on. If this is his attitude do we want him anyway? - better he goes and hopefully we get a decent fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beau45 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Tristan signed a pre contract agreement under which he was supposed to sign a pro contract for us following his 17th birthday in January. He hasn't signed and his agent is apparantly trying to get him a deal elsewhere - and no doubt make himself a shed load of money. We appear to be Tristan's "fallback" position if no one else will take him on. Hardly a sign of passion or commitment for the club that has brought him on. If this is his attitude do we want him anyway? - better he goes and hopefully we get a decent fee.Exactly my point, if he hasnt signed yet, his heart is not in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Maybe the outcome of this season will make a difference, we go up he signs, we don't and he goes to a Champ/Prem club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 But does dolly have more inside info than me?How do you know this?, all I'm saying is that Plummer isn't staying and 2 have been given the green light to stay, Jordan Walker being one of them.in fairness to Dolly I'd have so say yes, between her position at the club and the fact I think she know's his mum (or something like that) I'd say she is in a very good position to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longacre_red Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 But does dolly have more inside info than me?How do you know this?, all I'm saying is that Plummer isn't staying and 2 have been given the green light to stay, Jordan Walker being one of them.We must have the same source!! I was told Jordan Walker and the left back (not sure of his name) have been offered pro deals! Josh Klein Davies will be released along with the other year 2 players who aren't already tied up with a pro contract, e.g. Frankie Artus!I've got my source to talk to tristan about a contract with City (I was there, he had it on loud speaker) he always changes the subject, never says he will sign, never says he wont sign! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BS3 Cider Army Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 in fairness to Dolly I'd have so say yes, between her position at the club and the fact I think she know's his mum (or something like that) I'd say she is in a very good position to judge.So she doesnt know him personally then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BS3 Cider Army Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 We must have the same source!! I was told Jordan Walker and the left back (not sure of his name) have been offered pro deals! Josh Klein Davies will be released along with the other year 2 players who aren't already tied up with a pro contract, e.g. Frankie Artus!I've got my source to talk to tristan about a contract with City (I was there, he had it on loud speaker) he always changes the subject, never says he will sign, never says he wont sign!Mathew Solocombe is the other signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colemanballs Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 and the fact I think :noexpression: :noexpression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest swindlered Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 If Plummer is already looking around then better he should go now. If players don't want to play for City then they're better off out. If he's already looking to go then he's still going to be looking whether he's in the first team or not. History shows that players who stuck around like Cotterill & Lita are now playing regularly in the Premier League. I don't see Anyinsah there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 If Plummer is already looking around then better he should go now. If players don't want to play for City then they're better off out. If he's already looking to go then he's still going to be looking whether he's in the first team or not. History shows that players who stuck around like Cotterill & Lita are now playing regularly in the Premier League. I don't see Anyinsah there though.As much as i hate to say it because i hate this **** with a passion. But a certain Liam Rosenior wanted out because he thought he was bigger than the club. Now hes a fully established full back at Fulham and playing for the Under 21s.I still hate the **** with a passion though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robinmad Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Mathew Solocombe is the other signing.Martin not Mathew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BS3 Cider Army Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 As much as i hate to say it because i hate this **** with a passion. But a certain Liam Rosenior wanted out because he thought he was bigger than the club. Now hes a fully established full back at Fulham and playing for the Under 21s.I still hate the **** with a passion though!He wasn't a ****, city tried to make him panic by not offering him a deal, so instead of talking to him personally they thought it'd be a good ideal to send the contract to him via post without warning, by the time it got to him he had already accepted an offer from Fulham because he had no idea city wanted to keep him. City's fault and no one elses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 He wasn't a ****, city tried to make him panic by not offering him a deal, so instead of talking to him personally they thought it'd be a good ideal to send the contract to him via post without warning, by the time it got to him he had already accepted an offer from Fulham because he had no idea city wanted to keep him. City's fault and no one elses.From what i was told, the contract was sent through the post, but because he heard nothing, openly told the person who informed me that because he'd heard nothing he wasnt going to bother entertaining the thought of signing again because he thought he was too good to play Division 2 (as it was then) football with City. He thouht he was good enough for the Premiership.So, that pre-season, he ended up signing for TORQUAY (hardly a premiership team is it) with his dad as manager. Then went on to join Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_man_terry Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 So, that pre-season, he ended up signing for TORQUAY (hardly a premiership team is it) with his dad as manager. Then went on to join Fulham.Incorrect, he spent until Jan training with Fulham until the compensation issue had been resolved at which point he joined them on a perm contract, he never signed directly for Torquay.however once after a few months at Fulham he joined Torquay on a loan spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Incorrect, he spent until Jan training with Fulham until the compensation issue had been resolved at which point he joined them on a perm contract, he never signed directly for Torquay.however once after a few months at Fulham he joined Torquay on a loan spellI stand correccted. But if he was as good as he said he was then he wouldve walked straight into the Fulham team when the compensation was sorted. Which that obviously didnt happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_man_terry Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I stand correccted. But if he was as good as he said he was then he wouldve walked straight into the Fulham team when the compensation was sorted. Which that obviously didnt happen!not really, because he hadn't been playing any sort of football since the end of the previous season he couldn't even play reserve team football in that period, so was seriously lacking any fitnessthe fact that he is now a premiership & england u21 regular and being touted for a full england call up and a future england right back, having played nearly 100 games at the top level and still being only 22 is a sign that he was actually right and was too good for us.when he was with the youth teams he was a class above anything else at the club and he showed that for the reserves and first team.good player, just a matter of time before he gets an england call up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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